topic Re: New Pole! in Broadband

New Pole!

Steamywee — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 17:41:13 GMT

The pole bordering my home and my neighbour was replaced yesterday August 3rd.

This isn't a complaint but a query regarding the work done.

I initially attempted many many different avenues to contact Openreach about this but the level of response automation was farcical so I am following the prevailing advice gleaned from these abortive attempts, and contacting yourselves in the hope that someone can advise me!

The job was excellently executed with little damage to the pavement around the pole.
My concern is with the cover of the terminal block at the top of the pole which has not been refitted in a manner which will protect the connections from the elements.
This may be due to the number of incoming lines, I counted 16, causing an excessive bulk which might interfere with the correct fitting of the cover.
I have no idea if it was correctly fitted when attached to the "retired" pole as the number of incoming lines was the same but my attention was never previously drawn to the cover.
Can someone please tell me if this is likely to cause the eventual degradation of the connections which are now no longer protected from the weather.
Here's a pic of the terminal box.

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 17:42:38 GMT

There's no pic, try the camera/image icon. Perhaps they haven't finished yet? Either way, not much point asking here I'm afraid.

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 17:46:13 GMT

Yes, Fixed!

The original pic the ubiquitous .jpg seems to be unacceptable to TT!

Tried changing the File type to .png, which is acceptable to most of the western world, also not suitable for TT!

Opened the .jpg pic in Pohotoshop and re saved as .png and there we have it!!! 😅

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 17:59:32 GMT

Amazing to think that 21st century communications company still regards that as a suitable way of connecting up its service!

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 22:19:26 GMT

I have to agree, it does look untidy and prone to weather damage, especially since that pic was taken looking at the southerly aspect of the pole, the direction of approach of the majority of rain/sleet/snow in months to come!

I've eventually managed to email Openreach via BT's email address: consumer-resolutionteam AT bt.com.

Maybe they'll sort it.

Edit: found an email address for Clive Selley, CEO Openreach that may yield a response!

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Fri, 05 Aug 2022 18:40:32 GMT

You know the way that Openreach work: one team to fit the pole; one team to climb the pole; one team to connect the cables; one team to install the cover; one team to come and check the cover ....

Re: New Pole!

Softy — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 11:24:42 GMT

I wouldn't worry as your junction box looks similar to those around our area which are 30 years or more old. The 'cover' in your picture is not actually a cover as such but the junction box itself. Pictures of typical 'tidy' BT/Openreach work attached.

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 13:56:46 GMT

@Softy Wow! that makes my work look super tidy! 😁

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 14:22:59 GMT

😉

Re: New Pole!

Softy — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 14:40:04 GMT

@Steamywee Now you have a nice new pole you can probably expect to see one of these fitted to it before 2026. It is a CBT or Connectorised Block Terminal to deliver FTTP to your property.

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 15:30:32 GMT

Yes, the recent free upgrade to FTTC offer got me investigating the world of FTTP.

The loss of the landline was a concern, which led me on to look into "Bluetooth Mobile Connectivity" aka "Link 2 Cell" and "Mobile link Technology" which would enable use of the Landline Wireless Handsets either using the POTS if available, or a mobile phone's contract (when at home), regardless of whether there was a physical Landline to the property, to make and receive calls.

That would be helpful for me as I have trouble hearing the tinny little speakers on mobile phones and when out and about, I tend to use Earbuds, they're a Godsend!

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 15:34:26 GMT

@ferguson now you're showing off! 😁

IWOOT 🤩

Re: New Pole!

Softy — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 18:42:06 GMT

@Steamywee Correction, looking at your pole photo you will need not one 4-Way CBT but probably 2 x 8-Way CBTs for the number of lines served.

Regarding the phone line, fewer people require a fixed line these days so VOIP in some form is the only way to go. There are problems with this where alarm systems, emergency calling systems etc are needed but I am sure this will be sorted before POTS is switched off.

@ferguson Thats a large CSP (Customer Service Point) you have there. I think they are a fair bit smaller now.

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 18:44:44 GMT

@Softy

That was installed last week, over the existing entry point, ready to go for FTTP.

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 18:48:41 GMT

Fairly standard judging by this?

Re: New Pole!

Softy — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 19:06:49 GMT

I stand corrected. I think it is the ONTs that are smaller now. I would be interested to know how your installation goes. I think it will be some time before I will be able to order although Openreach and other contractors have been pulling fibres in our area for a couple of years. Last month they started installing the CBTs on the poles so who knows.

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 19:15:48 GMT

Telecoms has gone way beyond my comprehension, but I think you are right, there are 16 connections to "my" pole, though one of them is a pole-to-pole line, no idea what that's about as both poles have dedicated manholes adjacent to them, the far pole (30mts away) also has a selection off cabinets too!

I would have thought that "interpole" connections would have been made underground.

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 19:53:28 GMT

I think that poles are a relic from the bygone era of telegraphy and the fact that Openreach are still using them as a means for carrying FTTP services seems mind boggling. I am fortunate enough to be in an area where all the infrastructure is underground and even more so that there were no obstructions in the ducting to my house, Openreach were able to feed the fibre cable through and fit the external box in under half an hour with no disruptive work required at all, other than fixing it to the wall.

Re: New Pole!

Steamywee — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 20:37:57 GMT

@ferguson You haven't lived until you have smelled the exotic scent of creosote from a freshly planted Pole wafting on the breeze!

Mine has the added benefit of really nasty splinters caused by the handling gear, about three feet from the ground, just where little fingers are most likely to reach.

I need to get my tools out to make it safe.

Re: New Pole!

ferguson — Sun, 07 Aug 2022 20:41:08 GMT

@Steamywee Don't you dare, Openreach will sue you for damage to their property!

Seriously, if you feel it poses a hazard/danger of any kind, you should report it to Openreach directly.