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    <title>topic Re: Major oops...!!!! in Technology</title>
    <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3141956#M28533</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;That was very interesting. I understand everything.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 19:41:29 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>norfolkdave</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2026-01-11T19:41:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Major oops...!!!!</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3141948#M28532</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;To any that saw my post on the homephone forum in thread started by &lt;STRONG&gt;wjsd7&lt;/STRONG&gt; and wondering what I was on, here is an explanation as to why I took it down.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Firstly Don't post with less than 2 hours sleep &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It is basic but complicated if you are not used to medalling with routers and settings etc. If you are not, best leave it all alone.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Basically, I was thinking more corporate routers than home routers so much of what I said was immaterial. &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;I have just done 1500 hours of update studies in a few months for my systems/networking studies to take in VOIP&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;. God knows why really as I am 67 and retired and never going to work in it again!! Obviously &lt;STRONG&gt;NAT&lt;/STRONG&gt; is on with both routers as &lt;STRONG&gt;my&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;STRONG&gt;(I don't believe the TP-Links can either)&lt;/STRONG&gt; second cannot run in pure router mode. Therefore you only need a static routing on the Hub 3 set to IP of second router. Second router Nat handles all traffic to Hub 3, so a second static route is not needed nor would work.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The reason for the second router on a different domain is further security. In my own case using&amp;nbsp; an ATA into lan port, (as internal phone port had failed) the Hub 3 played up and there was a need to drop the router to a less aggressive state. Meaning less secure, hence a different domain. I have trading computers which for obvious reasons you can see why I don't want a weakened firewall in front of them.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You cannot make the necessary adjustments to either firewall in my case the Hub 3 and Linksys MR5500 as neither allow it. Therefore all devices were installed on the lan of the second router. This way all devices talk to each-other on second router. In a weakened state I would NOT connect any devices to the Hub 3 anyway.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Effectively no device can access the second router lan. NOT even with short cuts. I know I originally posted using short cuts but I was assuming very wrongly that firewalls could be modified and the user had the expertise to set new rules effectively and securely,&lt;/STRONG&gt; but as I said none of the mentioned routers allow that type of modification to the firewalls. And why would you with a weakened firewall.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, I killed the post as it would cause more problems than fixing. Yes Hub3 worked with VOIP&amp;nbsp; on ATA through lan and transferred connection to the Linksys in my case but the Hub 3 basically failed big time, crashing multiple times for what reason I have no idea! So I removed it. I would not use this setup if you are using an ATA only if your telephone port is working on your hub. The Hub 3 router does not like ATA's.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It will all work if you want the VOIP on &lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;but still use your own router&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt; using Hub3 as main router feeding second router with static route set on hub 3 pointing to second router IP. Whether you split domains is up to how you want it all to work.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If you are not splitting domains then you would not adopt this method anyway.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;So sorry for anyone that this caused confusion to them.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Though for 99% of home users the Hub 3 will do the job required of it.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 11:05:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3141948#M28532</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-11T11:05:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Major oops...!!!!</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3141956#M28533</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That was very interesting. I understand everything.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 11 Jan 2026 19:41:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3141956#M28533</guid>
      <dc:creator>norfolkdave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-11T19:41:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Major oops...!!!!</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3142338#M28534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Sorry I mean &lt;STRONG&gt;subnet&lt;/STRONG&gt; not domain, plonker that I am!!!&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2026 17:20:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Technology/Major-oops/m-p/3142338#M28534</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2026-01-15T17:20:12Z</dc:date>
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