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New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Sun, 21 May 2023 07:35:47 GMT

So we have just come from Sky, where I had rock solid connection for many years, at 25Mbps+ down, about 4Mbps up, with it settled on about 3dB noise margin for both. When the connection switched on Friday the Sky router actually reconnected and the speed was similar.

However I removed it and plugged in the talktalk box. It has connected at 19Mbps downstream, which is considerably slower than I'm used to, but the modern says the noise margin is 0!

Is this normal, or should I be worried. My account says it's day 3 of 10 for setting up, but I don't understand the 0dB noise margin which would imply it's not going to get any faster?

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

AllyM — Sun, 21 May 2023 11:34:02 GMT

The zero noise margin may just be a software bug/glitch.

When you switched over the routers did you leave at least 30 minutes between disconnecting the Sky one and firing up the TalkTalk one? If not, it may be worthwhile to try switching it off for 30 minutes to ensure that it hasn't just connected to a session started by the Sky router messing things up a bit.

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Sun, 21 May 2023 11:55:59 GMT

No, I just reconnected. I'll try that, thanks 😊

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Sun, 21 May 2023 14:05:27 GMT

Ok tried that... Left it off for 40mins, but no luck, basically exactly the same connection settings as before (and still saying zero noise margin 😐)

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

AllyM — Sun, 21 May 2023 14:14:42 GMT

Ok, probably best to leave it now to see if TalkTalk staff can offer any advice when they're back at work after the weekend.

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

ferguson — Sun, 21 May 2023 15:16:29 GMT

@seajays

There is a more recent firmware version. Try a pinhole reset on your router and see if it updates. Subject to that, the support team will advise further when they are back online from Monday.

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Sun, 21 May 2023 16:10:00 GMT

Thanks - tried that as well. All the setting reset, but the connection details are just the same. Would it try to do a firmware update immediately or overnight?

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

ferguson — Sun, 21 May 2023 17:11:59 GMT

Possibly overnight. By the time you check in the morning the support team will hopefully be on the case. 🙂

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Mon, 22 May 2023 07:11:10 GMT

Hi seajays

I've updated your router firmware, please let us know how the connection compares.

Thanks

Debbie

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Mon, 22 May 2023 15:44:10 GMT

Ok, it does seem to have updated, however the stats look the same. There is another problem with my account though, as it appears to be "stuck" and has not activated properly, as I haven't received Netflix email, and I cannot manage anything like telephone options such as caller display. In my account it says broadband hasn't activated yet... 😐 (Even though it is working)

I went on to online chat today for almost 2 hours and was passed around sixteen customer agents - none of which seemed to know what to do... In the end they have supposed to have resent the Netflix email, though it still hasn't arrived. 😐

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 06:01:02 GMT

Hi seajays

I'm just sending you a Private Message so I can take a look at the speed issue.

If you create a new topic in the Billing section, then my colleague Arne can take a look at the issues you are experiencing with My Account.

Thanks

Debbie

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 07:07:18 GMT

Hi seajays

Thanks for confirming your details.

As the sync speed is below the predicted speed for the line we will need to arrange an Openreach engineer visit.

Would you like me to arrange this visit? Please can you also confirm potential engineer charges Engineer charges

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Tue, 23 May 2023 07:18:45 GMT

Yes - it's this morning reconnected at 12Mbps... ☹️

The line was perfect with Sky - nothing else has changed (other than installing your router). I hope I will not be charged if it turns out it is a router fault.

It also still says that my Fibre broadband order is "pending" in my account. I've started a discussion in billing as well.

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 07:21:35 GMT

Hi seajays

Would you like me to send a router first to rule this out?

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Tue, 23 May 2023 07:43:14 GMT

I think that might be a good idea - I've just reconnected my Sky router to see what it would do, and it reconnected normally back at 24MBps with 4dB noise margin - I think the talktalk router may be faulty.

Sky router stats when I tried just now:

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 07:49:23 GMT

Hi seajays

Thanks for your reply.

I've ordered a replacement router, please allow 24-48hrs for this to arrive.

Let us know how the connection/speed compares with this router.

Thanks again.

Debbie

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Tue, 23 May 2023 08:18:05 GMT

Hi Debbie - I just pm'd you if that's OK.

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 08:19:29 GMT

Hi seajays

Yes of course, I've just replied 🙂

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

Debbie-TalkTalk — Tue, 23 May 2023 08:43:20 GMT

Hi seajays

I have arranged the engineer visit for tomorrow 24/05 PM (1pm - 6pm)

Please let us know how you get on following this visit.

Thanks again.

Debbie

Re: New connection, zero noise margin? Fibre 35

seajays — Wed, 24 May 2023 15:17:51 GMT

Thanks, engineer has been - he also thinks there is a fault with the router after testing the line etc. So hopefully when the new router arrives, that will sort things out.