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Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Xpander43 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:02:23 GMT

We currently have Talk Talk Fibre 35 at home. Full Fibre is being rolled out in our street and immediate area. Once we are out of contract at the end of May 2025 with TalkTalk, I am interested in upgrading to TalkTalk Full Fibre 150. We would still require a landline for calls. The price and extra speed is very appealing. I understand it comes with a new eero 6 router? Can someone tell me how many ethernet ports it has please? Also our current Talk Talk WiFi hub router is situated about 5-6 metres from the main socket and telephone in another room. I use a 10 metre broadband extension cable to connect the router to the ADSL filter connected to the main socket, feeding this cable over the top of a door frame and along a skirting board. Will this cable still be used to connect the new router to the main socket? Finally, what is involved when the engineer visits to carry out the installation please?

Matthew

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Gliwmaeden2 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:12:22 GMT

Some initial articles to get you started, @Xpander43:

https://community.talktalk.co.uk/eerosetup

https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Articles/Using-eero-s-advanced-features/ta-p/2936230

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Chris-TalkTalk — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 09:14:08 GMT

Hi Matthew,

Welcome to the Community

If the network supplier is Openreach or City Fibre then yes it will come with the eero 6. You'll lose the landline but would usually get a VoIP service if this is available. The eero has 2 Ethernet ports, but these are both usually take by the ethernet cable to the ONT and the digital voice adapter. (the links that Gliwmaeden2 has posted should answer any other questions)

Chris

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

KeithFrench — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 13:52:34 GMT

Hi @Xpander43

You cannot use broadband cable. Get the installer to site the ONT as close to the router's location as you can (it does not need to go anywhere near the old master socket, that has nothing to do with full fibre. Then get a long enough Cat 6 minimum Ethernet cable & run that from where the ONT is to where the eero will be. I often use small white plastic self-adhesive trunking to hide the cable in.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Xpander43 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 14:41:04 GMT

Thank you for your replies. Our connection is provided by Openreach. From your advice having the full fibre connection box close to where the new router will go, is best. The only sticking point for me is the fact that all four ethernet ports are currently in use with our existing Talk Talk WiFi Hub Router for our fibre 35 connection. The new eero 6 router only has one or two ethernet ports (and one of these is required for a digital voice adaptor for connecting a phone), and as one of the articles linked to in one of your posts, necessities purchase of a network switch to expand upon the possible wired ethernet ports. What is the typical price of these (1000mbps capable) please?

It maybe that at the moment fibre 65 is the better option connectivity wise as we only use the WiFi capability of the Talk Talk WiFi Hub Router for two smartphone devices and one tablet. One other question, does fibre 65 and fibre 35 run with the same Talk Talk WiFi Hub Router? Ours is a Sagemcom navy blue TalkTalk WiFi hub router and has one light on the front for showing the connection status and comes with four ethernet ports. If so, I think maybe fibre 65 is the better upgrade for us at the moment, when out of contract.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 15:02:59 GMT

The lack of ethernet ports can be easily surmounted with a simple ethernet switch, some examples can be found here.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Xpander43 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:37:17 GMT

Thanks for the link on ethernet switches. I found a high rated one that would be perfect for my needs for just over twenty pounds - bookmarked. Would it just straightforwardly connect to the eero 6 router via an ethernet cable and is there any other configuration of the ethernet switch required once you have plugged in all your wired ethernet devices?

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 16:40:17 GMT

Nope, just plug and play. Another power socket need though.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Gliwmaeden2 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 18:20:59 GMT

SAGEMCOM is fine for everything from my basic ADSL to Fibre65 (fibre to the cabinet) and Fibre65, full fibre to the premises, @Xpander43.

If you go for the Full Fibre 65, you can plug your phone into the router, if you have the Hub2. That's a simpler way to keep your landline number while actually having full fibre installed.

The phone line service MUST be specified at the time of ordering if you go for Full Fibre65. It can't be added later.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 18:54:04 GMT

@Gliwmaeden2

The poster is looking at upgrading to Full Fibre 150.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Gliwmaeden2 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:40:11 GMT

See their comment in message #5. @Xpander43 is now considering Fibre65.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:05:56 GMT

Yes, but you mentioned both flavours. 🙂

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Gliwmaeden2 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:20:53 GMT

@ferguson, I was mentioning both forms of Fibre65, as the OP didn't mention which one they intended to upgrade to, but all they need to know is that the Sagemcom Hub2 will work either way.

Hope that's clear for you, @Xpander43. If you go for FTTC Fibre65 you simply plug your phone in as usual and continue with the BT mastersocket. Any Sagemcom will work.

If you go for FTTP Fibre65 you ask to keep your phone number and plug the phone jack into the phone socket at the back of the Sagemcom Hub2.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:24:02 GMT

Ah, OK, so you are suggesting Full Fibre 65 over Full Fibre 150, currently at the same price, because the poster made a point about the number of ethernet ports, which as far as I can see they got a satisfactory answer to?

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Gliwmaeden2 — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 22:35:57 GMT

Yes, they'd had a satisfactory answer, and the thread then moved on to other possibilities.

No I was not commenting on Fibre65 over Fibre150. I made no mention of Fibre 150 and was merely responding to the customer's comment:

@Xpander43 wrote:

"One other question, does fibre 65 and fibre 35 run with the same Talk Talk WiFi Hub Router? Ours is a Sagemcom navy blue TalkTalk WiFi hub router and has one light on the front for showing the connection status and comes with four ethernet ports. If so, I think maybe fibre 65 is the better upgrade for us at the moment, when out of contract."

Surely that was deserving of a thoughtful response?

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 19:46:45 GMT

Ah, I preferred it before the edit. 🙂

But OK.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

KeithFrench — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 21:02:14 GMT

Hi @Xpander43

Whichever package of the two, 65 or 150, the Sagemcom will still do, although with Digital Voice you will need it swapped out for the 5464, which is identical to the 5364, except that it has a phone port in the rear. You just plug an ordinary landline phone in there and you have Digital Voice (providing that you have requested it at the time of order).

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Fri, 18 Oct 2024 21:08:08 GMT

Yeah, but just to be clear, if you opt for Full Fibre 65 you will get the Sagemcom 5464 with voice port, for Full Fibre 150 you will get the eero with DVA.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

Xpander43 — Sat, 19 Oct 2024 10:52:24 GMT

Thank you for all your further responses. To clarify, yes originally I was considering upgrading to full fibre 150, when posting the topic, then as the discussion developed I was considering FTTC 65 where I could keep existing landline (for now at least) with no other changes to hardware. I am still weighing things up until the contract finishes in May next year. I know roughly that there is very little difference in price between fibre 35, 65 and full fibre 150 (at the moment), we are paying £26 per month for fibre 35 currently, and although it may all change by next May, can anyone tell me the current prices of all three as a new contract please? Then I can compare this to in May the current prices and make a decision then. Be interesting to know for now.

Re: Considering upgrading to Talk Talk Full Fibre 150

ferguson — Sat, 19 Oct 2024 11:52:35 GMT

Prices do vary, but currently Fibre 35, Fibre 65, Full Fibre 65 and Full Fibre 150 are all being offered at £28 a month. So really nothing in it on a cost basis.

https://www.talktalk.co.uk/broadband/fttp