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    <title>topic Upgrade to full fibre with DSL/VOPI in Full Fibre</title>
    <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079217#M33360</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Why is it so difficult to get real information about any product or service?&amp;nbsp; (This is not confined to TalkTalk)&amp;nbsp; I am on my 3rd offer for a free upgrade to Full Fibre.&amp;nbsp; I currently run on Fibre to Cabinet with a landline.&amp;nbsp; I wish to retain my landline, but the first two offers said nothing about DSL/VOIP and I could not get a satisfactory answer from support so declined.&amp;nbsp; The 3rd offer said it would include DSL/VOIP, so I again contacted support and still got no concrete information, just statements that the upgrade included digital voice.&amp;nbsp; I thought there was a chance it would work this time, and since I would be contacted nearer the upgrade, i let it run.&amp;nbsp; I then had a questionnaire on my use of my landline and shortly after responding to that was told I was not suitable for the upgrade and it was cancelled.&amp;nbsp; I then got another statement saying I was going to&amp;nbsp; full fibre, but would retain my landline and I would be contacted for a date.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't have a date, but I have just received a new &lt;A href="mailto:F@ST" target="_blank"&gt;F@ST&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;5464 modem/router, which would be appropriate for my cancelled upgrade on Wed 27-Nov.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A search for a manual has been useless - even the Sagecom site doesn't seem to provide manuals.&amp;nbsp; Looking at the back of the modem however, it does support wired ethernet with RJ45 sockets and has an RJ11 socket&amp;nbsp;labelled phone.&amp;nbsp; I am assuming that I can plug a standard&amp;nbsp;BT8500 phone set into this and retain my landline.&amp;nbsp; If so I need another cable - a double ended RJ11, as my landline base-station is nowhere near my router.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I run a 1Gb wired network off a secondary switch and it would be nice to know what the router supports.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I appreciate that most people are not interested in the technicalities, but is too much to ask for access to a technical specification?&amp;nbsp; I assume at least the manufacturer has one to know what it is building.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 12:19:22 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>AlexCrane</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-11-25T12:19:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Upgrade to full fibre with DSL/VOPI</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079217#M33360</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Why is it so difficult to get real information about any product or service?&amp;nbsp; (This is not confined to TalkTalk)&amp;nbsp; I am on my 3rd offer for a free upgrade to Full Fibre.&amp;nbsp; I currently run on Fibre to Cabinet with a landline.&amp;nbsp; I wish to retain my landline, but the first two offers said nothing about DSL/VOIP and I could not get a satisfactory answer from support so declined.&amp;nbsp; The 3rd offer said it would include DSL/VOIP, so I again contacted support and still got no concrete information, just statements that the upgrade included digital voice.&amp;nbsp; I thought there was a chance it would work this time, and since I would be contacted nearer the upgrade, i let it run.&amp;nbsp; I then had a questionnaire on my use of my landline and shortly after responding to that was told I was not suitable for the upgrade and it was cancelled.&amp;nbsp; I then got another statement saying I was going to&amp;nbsp; full fibre, but would retain my landline and I would be contacted for a date.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't have a date, but I have just received a new &lt;A href="mailto:F@ST" target="_blank"&gt;F@ST&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;5464 modem/router, which would be appropriate for my cancelled upgrade on Wed 27-Nov.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A search for a manual has been useless - even the Sagecom site doesn't seem to provide manuals.&amp;nbsp; Looking at the back of the modem however, it does support wired ethernet with RJ45 sockets and has an RJ11 socket&amp;nbsp;labelled phone.&amp;nbsp; I am assuming that I can plug a standard&amp;nbsp;BT8500 phone set into this and retain my landline.&amp;nbsp; If so I need another cable - a double ended RJ11, as my landline base-station is nowhere near my router.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;I run a 1Gb wired network off a secondary switch and it would be nice to know what the router supports.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I appreciate that most people are not interested in the technicalities, but is too much to ask for access to a technical specification?&amp;nbsp; I assume at least the manufacturer has one to know what it is building.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 25 Nov 2024 12:19:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079217#M33360</guid>
      <dc:creator>AlexCrane</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-25T12:19:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade to full fibre with DSL/VOPI</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079551#M33417</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;a href="https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/748605"&gt;@AlexCrane&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Yes, I've gone through this same saga a couple of years ago.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is no manual from the manufacturer, Sagemcom of the F@ST 5464 router.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some of the maintenance of this router is carried out by TalkTalk themselves.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But there is no manual for it, from TalkTalk either.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;You just have to accept it. It works (partly).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;As far as I understand it, the DSL that you mention, is part of the FTTC system, which is what you are currently using.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The FTTP which you are in the process of getting doesn't have anything like DSL. There will be a completely new FIBRE line installed with a completely new incoming socket.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;&amp;nbsp;RJ11 socket&amp;nbsp;labelled phone on the router, will allow you to connect all your existing phones&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;While you are in the upgrade process, you must insist to TalkTalk that the new service includes the VOIP part of the service, so that you can connect your phones.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Bill&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 26 Nov 2024 12:44:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079551#M33417</guid>
      <dc:creator>Billx</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-26T12:44:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade to full fibre with DSL/VOPI</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079792#M33466</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks, Bill.&amp;nbsp; I've now had a lengthy conversation with TalkTalk about upgrading with VOIP and I think it's sorted.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:29:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079792#M33466</guid>
      <dc:creator>AlexCrane</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-27T11:29:50Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Upgrade to full fibre with DSL/VOPI</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079796#M33467</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Alex&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;glad to ear you have resolved this with our colleagues.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Karl.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 27 Nov 2024 11:42:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Full-Fibre/Upgrade-to-full-fibre-with-DSL-VOPI/m-p/3079796#M33467</guid>
      <dc:creator>Karl-TalkTalk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-11-27T11:42:41Z</dc:date>
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