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    <title>topic Re: Spam emails in Email</title>
    <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006875#M175678</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Obviously Rootin doesn't read my signature or my bio that clearly indicates I'm an independent volunteer to Community.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also telling you to delete your mailbox wasn't an instruction just part of an observation that it was the only sure way to remove an address from the hands of criminals.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You're right that expecting individual mail services to cope with spam from Gmail is like putting an ambulance at the bottom of a cliff waiting for fallout. Some of your fellow members don't want spam stopped at source i.e. at Gmail or whatever other spam sender uses the dark net's compilation of email addresses previously discovered.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;How do I know this? - because the spammers don't check that email addresses from these old captures like onliner Spambot in 2017 haven't already been deleted prior to 2023 - the reason for Gmail senders getting the TT405 bounceback error for sending to addresses that do not exist.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Dec 2023 13:55:52 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2023-12-11T13:55:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3005941#M175514</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;In recent weeks I have been plagued with spam emails, now dozens per day.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have tried blocking through my iPhone but I’m fighting a losing battle.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone please help?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 11:01:01 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3005941#M175514</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-07T11:01:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006041#M175526</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi Ricardo80, continue to mark as spam. Either your email or one of your friends or family have had their email harvested their contacts list spammed.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Ady&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 14:48:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006041#M175526</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ady-TalkTalk</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-07T14:48:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006085#M175534</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;Hello Ady&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;That’s not going to work.. there are too&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;many.&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;&lt;DIV&gt;I was hoping there was a filter system that would let me take key words or symbols that would allow me to block these spam emails&amp;nbsp;&lt;/DIV&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 16:59:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006085#M175534</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-07T16:59:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006135#M175550</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi &lt;a href="https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/504241"&gt;@Ricardo80&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;View the email header (View Source from the More actions triple dots (ellipsis) menu icon) and look at the email address within chevron brackets on the Return-Path: line and the From: line and see if there's a common factor across the various emails. e.g. the same domain is originating most of the spam.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Is there a common factor in the Subject: line?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;To be able to set a simple Rule to work across multiple emails there needs to be some unique identifier that's capable of being used in a Rule to divert the spam from the Inbox whilst leaving the genuine mail messages untouched.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 21:09:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006135#M175550</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-07T21:09:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006136#M175551</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Gondola&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’ll try what you suggest.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 07 Dec 2023 21:17:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006136#M175551</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-07T21:17:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006239#M175563</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Just to add, I've also raised this over to our Network Engineers for investigation to see if there are any known issues. I will post back here as soon as they come back to me.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Michelle&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 09:45:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006239#M175563</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T09:45:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006249#M175566</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Michelle&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I get dozens of such emails per day &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":weary_face:"&gt;😩&lt;/span&gt; Fishing and Spam&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:00:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006249#M175566</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T10:00:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006252#M175568</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm sorry to hear that. The team are now investigating so am hoping to have an update soon.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Michelle&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:02:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006252#M175568</guid>
      <dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T10:02:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006253#M175569</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 10:03:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006253#M175569</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T10:03:10Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006383#M175585</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Did you find any common factors unique to the spam emails that we could use to help you construct effective Rules to divert messages from your Inbox?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 19:31:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006383#M175585</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T19:31:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006391#M175590</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Gondola&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I click on the FROM name, it reveals the actual senders address which all have a + sign in the text.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would it be possible to use this + to create a filter to stop this/these senders?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 20:35:20 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006391#M175590</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T20:35:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006393#M175592</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Is this email address contained within &amp;lt;chevron brackets&amp;gt;? I assume the + symbol is in the local part preceding the @ symbol? - Give an example please.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 20:42:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006393#M175592</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T20:42:32Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006403#M175595</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Gondola&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Two examples shown below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;saddamms442335+aIIRmByV9UcYTNRdv97vjI3vgdkvX0GFM4@gmail.com&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;b.ea.ul.ieu.o.d.et.te.1+ZuR7MwBXzv0sWJ1pKqJUAhoDpdG8A@googlemail.com&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 21:44:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006403#M175595</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T21:44:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006408#M175596</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The quick answer is no, the + symbol is not going to be recognised by the sieve filter.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'll explain what's happening with those addresses.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Gmail deals with the first example by sending incoming mail and replies to a Gmail mailbox that has the address saddamms442335@gmail.com and the part after the + is ignored as far as delivering mail to a mailbox. This part can be filtered by the recipient to individual defined folders but may also be used by criminals or bulk mailers to identify who responded.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;TalkTalk Mail deals with the + symbol in a similar way. The email address is defined by a Local Part&amp;nbsp;@ Domain but the Local Part can be split into two as a User + Detail&amp;nbsp;@ Domain.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The sieve filter will therefore recognise the User part and the Detail part and the Domain part. So. if you had all spam arriving from Saddamms442335 you could apply a Rule to detect that as the User. Unfortunately in the two 'From' addresses you gave the only common factor is the domain being Gmail / Googlemail. Whilst you could set up a Filter rule to look for the Gmail or Googlemail domains you'd also have to include an exclusion for all of your genuine contacts that use Gmail.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 22:20:27 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006408#M175596</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T22:20:27Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006409#M175597</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you Gondola&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;fortunately I don’t have many google mail or gmail contacts so would be prepared to set up a filter as you suggest.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;could you please advise how I do this?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;regards&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 22:29:47 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006409#M175597</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T22:29:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006414#M175598</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;On the basis that there aren't many genuine Gmail contacts you need to include in a Rule, first create a Rule to identify those wanted Gmail contacts.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rule set for 'Apply rule if any condition is met'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The condition is 'E-mail Address' 'Header From' 'All' 'Is exactly' 'user1@gmail.com'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Further conditions 'E-mail Address' 'Header From' 'All' 'Is exactly' 'user2@gmail.com'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;etc - replace user1 with the real username and keep this rule updated with new genuine Gmail contacts by adding further conditions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Action 'File into' 'Select folder' 'Wanted_Gmail'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;You need to create this folder for your wanted Gmail contacts and their mail messages.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Tick Process subsequent rules.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Now create a Rule to put all remaining Gmail and Googlemail into the Trash folder&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Rule set for 'Apply rule if any condition is met'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The condition is 'E-mail Address' 'Header From' 'Part Domain' 'Ends with gmail.com'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And a second condition 'E-mail Address' 'Header From' 'Part Domain' 'Ends with googlemail.com'&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;(NB omit the ' marks from the actual rules)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The suggested action is 'File into' and the folder 'Trash' which gives you 30 days to review for any new wanted Gmail contacts prior to auto deletion.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 08 Dec 2023 23:19:40 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006414#M175598</guid>
      <dc:creator>Gondola</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-08T23:19:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006423#M175601</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for your help Gondola.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Ill give this a try and I’ll let you know the outcome.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2023 08:36:00 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006423#M175601</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-09T08:36:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006491#M175615</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have been getting the same spam emails only on my tiscali account for just over a week now&amp;nbsp; They are American, referencing things like the FBI &amp;amp; referring to rewards in dollars etc. I report them as spam but they just go on &amp;amp; on&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2023 16:29:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006491#M175615</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jacey6</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-09T16:29:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006492#M175616</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am being inundated with the things…it’s a real nuisance.&amp;nbsp;&lt;BR /&gt;I just wish TalkTalk would help&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 09 Dec 2023 16:38:44 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006492#M175616</guid>
      <dc:creator>Ricardo80</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-09T16:38:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Spam emails</title>
      <link>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006565#M175622</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Me too driving me nuts. Initially was marking them as spam, when I try that now, email totally locks up for some reason. Have to kick it off then go back in, not ideal. Will have a look on pc later to try some of the suggestions on here.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Only got the odd one before the upgrade at least a dozen a day now.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 Dec 2023 10:14:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://community.talktalk.co.uk/t5/Email/Spam-emails/m-p/3006565#M175622</guid>
      <dc:creator>Jillybean2</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2023-12-10T10:14:10Z</dc:date>
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