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HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 12:19:19 GMT

Am unable to send emails from my @talktalk.net email address.

It happened a few weeks ago but only affecting my email account when using my laptop and mobile. Now I can't use via webmail or any platform. Emails being received perfectly - just sending that's an issue. Screenshot attached but message is essentially:

Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

I'm only trying to send an email to one person and haven't sent any bulk emails.

Can anyone help please? This is a real problem for me.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 12:47:37 GMT

Your mail sending has been temporarily rate limited because the system has detected the sending of potential spam.

Are any of your devices connecting to the mailbox via a VPN? Could be a work VPN or a VPN service provided as part of your Internet security. If that VPN host server is hosted overseas or has been detected as other shared users sending spam then purely as a protection measure TalkTalk Mail will rate limit your sending.

On the TalkTalk email address you were sending to - were you asked to use that email address by TalkTalk?

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 13:20:22 GMT

Hi Gondola,

Really appreciate the reply. My laptop and iPhone are standard set up - no VPNs. I can see nothing coming from my end that would warrant a temporary limit. Changed my password last time it happened and hope everything is secure. Do you think there's anything sinister to the story that I need to address?

I just put the help@talktalk.co.uk email address in so I could do a screenshot - no expectations of any direct help.

Any advice you could give me? When do you think the restriction will be lifted?

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Thu, 01 Feb 2024 13:56:51 GMT

The error suggests sending from an overseas network. The worst case would be that your password has been compromised and an overseas hacker is using your mailbox.

I'd recommend scanning your email devices to remove potential password capturing virus, trojan or other malware and then upgrading the password. I recommend 12 - 15 characters. Multicase letters and numbers and at least one symbol.

Select here: Sign in to TalkTalk Mail

Enter your full TalkTalk Mail email address, select Continue and enter the password, select Sign in.

Select the cog icon top right (desktop browser on your laptop
Select the All settings menu item
Select Security in the left side of the modal that opens
Take a note of Your devices
Sign out all devices

This will just leave your laptop signed in and because you have upgraded the password then any unauthorised activity will be locked out. Just use the laptop to sign in for a while. It can take up to 24 hours for spam protection rate limits to be relaxed.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 11:24:33 GMT

Hi Gondola,

Having the same problem again (screenshot attached). Since our last exchange I have changed my password (using a very strong autogenerated password) and installed virus software on to my laptop. No viruses were picked up. I've checked which devices are logged into my account as you suggested and it's only showing my laptop (although, interestingly, it's not detailing my iPhone even though I'm logged in.

Currently waiting for Talktalk support to reply to me on their chat service.

obscured for customer security

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 11:34:01 GMT

I've moderated the latest image and moved it to your Hidden images folder to protect the multiple recipient addresses from being seen by the world!

The latest error code is TT501. This indicates that the mail sending from your mailbox has triggered an hourly limit, set by the anti-spam protection, and therefore there's a temporary stop on sending that will be relaxed in 60 minutes. TalkTalk Mail is a mail service for home use and does have (as do many other residential email services) a limit on the number of recipients that can be sent to per hour and per day.

Just hold off sending for an hour or so and your normal mail sending allowance will be restored.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 11:41:27 GMT

Thank you Gondola. I've sent just 3 emails this morning to single recipients. No reason for it not to trigger an hourly limit. My suspicion is that my email account is being used by someone else. I can only be this. What else could it be?

Thanks for hiding the image!

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 12:17:54 GMT

It's more likely that a lower than normal rate limit is still being applied to your mailbox by the spam protection process. You're right that if someone else knew the mailbox password and was using your mailbox then that would use up a normal sending allowance. But to guard against this, you have installed anti-virus software that hopefully would detect any password capturing keyloggers etc and you've upgraded the password so that should not be known by others and not seen any evidence of other devices being signed in to your mailbox.

Check the Sent and Trash folders for any evidence of unauthorised messages. But if you find nothing and are still experiencing problems over the weekend then I've already escalated this topic to TalkTalk Community Support so a member can follow up with you next week.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:00:19 GMT

Hi Gondola,

Thanks. No evidence of illicit emails in sent or trash folders - just ones I recognised.

For an hour or so I could email through webmail but now that's showing an error message as well - could not be sent

(453 - 453 4.2.0 Y95rzYy95EXC Too Many

Recipients (TT605)

This really isn't a security issue at my end.

I'd value it if you could escalate the issue with Talktalk Community Support.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Thu, 08 Feb 2024 19:03:44 GMT

Done.

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Ady-TalkTalk — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 10:03:03 GMT

Hi wacko50, I've asked the admins to check for sending volumes from your mailbox. I'll let you know if and when I hear back.

Ady

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:28:01 GMT

Than you Ady. I send a handful of emails per day and never bulk email addresses above and beyond perhaps 10 people max copied in. I'll be interested to see what the admins say.

Colin

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Ady-TalkTalk — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:06:12 GMT

I've been told that they're being sent from a Vodafone connection. They're checking for futher information to see if you've been unfairly limited.

Ady

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 14:40:30 GMT

Hi Ady,

thanks again for looking into this.

Our broadband provider is Vodafone. My mobile provider is GiffGaff. It’ll be interesting to know whether an unfair limit has been put in place.

Colin

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Gondola — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:11:14 GMT

If you recall I thought the issue was sending from an overseas network or VPN host server based overseas. The TalkTalk Mail system will look at the sending IP address and if that IP address is registered outside of the UK then that could trigger the spam protection.

However, I would have expected Vodafone to have got plenty of UK registered IP addresses. But as their customer numbers have been increasing over the last year, maybe not.

What is my IP address

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Mon, 12 Feb 2024 15:58:33 GMT

Hi Gondola,

My IP address is UK based.

Will be fascinated to know what the issue is after all this detective work. Thanks for your ongoing support. REALLY appreciated.

Colin

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Ady-TalkTalk — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 08:14:50 GMT

Hi Colin, I've been told it should be sorted for you.

Ady

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

wacko50 — Tue, 13 Feb 2024 08:19:53 GMT

Thanks Ady,

Fingers crossed, this will do the trick. Do we know what the problem was?

Re: HELP NEEDED - Can't send emails. Error message (453 - 453 4.2.0 Too Many Recipients (TT605) )

Ady-TalkTalk — Wed, 14 Feb 2024 08:40:17 GMT

I don't I'm afraid. There was a level of confidence to the it should be fixed though that I expect means it will indeed be fixed.

Ady