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Incoming Emails being rejected by TalkTal/Tiscali

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Philosopher

Having seen other members state that they have not received emails from safe senders, yesterday I sent myself an email from my yahoo email that is in my Tiscali contacts list.

I received a Rejected email reply. This is despite when I was  moved onto the new email system I sent myself test emails then and they worked OK then, so what has changed on the Talk Talk side since then?

 

<h3 ""="" id="yui_3_16_0_ym19_1_1554644973837_2780"> Rejected: Test

 

Your message to <3@551216> was automatically rejected:

 

Reporting-UA: imap-backend-31.dovecot.tt.ham.xion.oxcs.net; Dovecot Mail Delivery Agent
Final-Recipient: rfc822; 3@551216
Original-Message-ID: <xxxxxxxxxxxx.28958946.1554585301812@mail.yahoo.com>
Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; deleted
 

 

The header:-

 

X-Apparently-To: me@yahoo.co.uk; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:15:09 +0000
Return-Path: <>
X-YahooFilteredBulk: 62.24.135.68
Received-SPF: none (domain of smtp-out-4.talktalk.net does not designate permitted sender hosts)
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X-Originating-IP: [62.24.135.68]
Authentication-Results: mta1117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com  from=551216; dkim=neutral (no sig)
Received: from 127.0.0.1  (EHLO smtp-out-4.talktalk.net) (62.24.135.68)
  by mta1117.mail.ir2.yahoo.com with SMTPS; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:15:08 +0000
Received: from mx002.tt.xion.oxcs.net ([157.97.76.156])
	by smtp.talktalk.net with SMTP
	id CseZhvfSNnuQZCseahhgg3; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 22:15:08 +0100
X-Originating-IP: [157.97.76.156]
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	by mx-out.tt.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTP id DB04D219D991
	for <me@yahoo.co.uk>; Sat,  6 Apr 2019 21:15:07 +0000 (UTC)
Message-ID: <dovecot-1554585307-891968-0@imap-backend-31.dovecot.tt.ham.xion.oxcs.net>
Date: Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:15:07 +0000
From: Mail Delivery Subsystem <postmaster@551216>
To: <me@yahoo.co.uk>
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/report; report-type=disposition-notification;
	boundary="23543/imap-backend-31.dovecot.tt.ham.xion.oxcs.net"
Subject: Rejected: Test
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Your message to <3@551216> was automatically rejected:

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Content-Type: message/disposition-notification

Reporting-UA: imap-backend-31.dovecot.tt.ham.xion.oxcs.net; Dovecot Mail Delivery Agent
Final-Recipient: rfc822; 3@551216
Original-Message-ID: <1839303120.28958946.1554585301812@mail.yahoo.com>
Disposition: automatic-action/MDN-sent-automatically; deleted

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Return-Path: <me@yahoo.co.uk>
Delivered-To: 3@551216
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	for <3@551216>; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:15:07 +0000
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	; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 21:15:07 +0000
Received: from smtp-out-8.tiscali.co.uk (smtp-out-8.tiscali.co.uk [62.24.135.136])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by mx.tt.xion.oxcs.net (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 44c8bH5Tv3z8fpRL
	for <me@tiscali.co.uk>; Sat,  6 Apr 2019 21:15:07 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from sonic310-11.consmr.mail.ir2.yahoo.com ([77.238.177.32])
	by mx.talktalk.net with SMTP
	id CseYhbAxNRG1aCseYhJLNG; Sat, 06 Apr 2019 22:15:06 +0100
X-Delivered-To: me@tiscali.co.uk
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Date: Sat, 6 Apr 2019 21:15:01 +0000 (UTC)
From: Me <me@yahoo.co.uk>
Reply-To: Me <me@yahoo.co.uk>
To: Me <me@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <1839303120.28958946.1554585301812@mail.yahoo.com>
Subject: Test
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ISP,s involved information.

 

62.24.135.68 IP address Information

The IP address 62.24.135.68 was found in Warrington, Warrington, United Kingdom. It is allocated to TalkTalk. Additional IP location information, as well as network tools are available below.

IP address:62.24.135.68
hostname:smtp-out-4.talktalk.net
ISP:TalkTalk
City:Warrington
Region:Warrington
Country:United Kingdom (GB) flag
Postal code:WA1
latitude:53.3833
longitude:-2.6
inetnum:        62.24.128.0 - 62.24.255.255
netname:        UK-OPALNET-20000413
country:        GB
org:            ORG-OTIS1-RIPE
admin-c:        PM58-RIPE
admin-c:        PT616-RIPE
tech-c:         PM58-RIPE
tech-c:         PT616-RIPE
status:         ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:         TALKTALK-MNT
mnt-lower:      OPAL-MNT
mnt-lower:      TALKTALK-MNT
mnt-routes:     OPAL-MNT
created:        1970-01-01T00:00:00Z
last-modified:  2018-12-06T15:27:06Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

organisation:   ORG-OTIS1-RIPE
org-name:       TalkTalk Communications Limited
org-type:       LIR
address:        Soapworks, Ordsall Lane, Salford, Manchester
address:        M5 3TT
address:        Manchester
address:        UNITED KINGDOM
phone:          +441612222000
fax-no:         +441612222008
admin-c:        TTHM-RIPE
tech-c:         TTHM-RIPE
abuse-c:        TTAT1-RIPE
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mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:         TALKTALK-MNT
created:        2004-04-17T12:19:48Z
last-modified:  2018-12-06T15:27:17Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         Phill Magill
address:        TalkTalk Communications Limited
address:        Northbank Industrial Estate
address:        Irlam
address:        Manchester
address:        M44 5BL
address:        United Kingdom
phone:          +44 161 222-2000
fax-no:         +44 161 222-2008
nic-hdl:        PM58-RIPE
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        2001-09-28T15:14:24Z
last-modified:  2011-07-15T10:45:41Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         Paul Thexton
address:        Opal Telecommunications Plc
address:        Northbank Industrial Estate
address:        Irlam
address:        Manchester
address:        M44 5BL
address:        United Kingdom
phone:          +44 161 222-2165
fax-no:         +44 161 222-2008
nic-hdl:        PT616-RIPE
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        2002-08-23T10:37:55Z
last-modified:  2002-08-23T10:37:55Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered


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descr:          Opal-Net Autonomous System
origin:         AS13285
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        1970-01-01T00:00:00Z
last-modified:  2001-09-22T09:33:21Z
source:         RIPE


157.97.76.156 IP address Information

The IP address 157.97.76.156 was found in Heiloo, Noord-Holland, Netherlands. It is allocated to x-ion GmbH, UUNorth International. Additional IP location information, as well as network tools are available below.

IP address:157.97.76.156
hostname:mx002.tt.xion.oxcs.net
ISP:x-ion GmbH
Organization:UUNorth International
City:Heiloo
Region:Noord-Holland
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Postal code:1851 pz
latitude:52.5979
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NetRange:       157.97.0.0 - 157.97.255.255
CIDR:           157.97.0.0/16
NetName:        RIPE
NetHandle:      NET-157-97-0-0-1
Parent:         NET157 (NET-157-0-0-0-0)
NetType:        Early Registrations, Transferred to RIPE NCC
OriginAS:       
Organization:   RIPE Network Coordination Centre (RIPE)
RegDate:        2016-03-17
Updated:        2016-03-17
Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/ip/157.97.0.0

ResourceLink:  https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html
ResourceLink:  whois://whois.ripe.net


OrgName:        RIPE Network Coordination Centre
OrgId:          RIPE
Address:        P.O. Box 10096
City:           Amsterdam
StateProv:      
PostalCode:     1001EB
Country:        NL
RegDate:        
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Ref:            https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/RIPE

ReferralServer:  whois://whois.ripe.net
ResourceLink:  https://apps.db.ripe.net/search/query.html

OrgTechHandle: RNO29-ARIN
OrgTechName:   RIPE NCC Operations
OrgTechPhone:  +31 20 535 4444 
OrgTechEmail:  hostmaster@ripe.net
OrgTechRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/RNO29-ARIN

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE3850-ARIN
OrgAbuseName:   Abuse Contact
OrgAbusePhone:  +31205354444 
OrgAbuseEmail:  abuse@ripe.net
OrgAbuseRef:    https://rdap.arin.net/registry/entity/ABUSE3850-ARIN


62.24.135.136 IP address Information

The IP address 62.24.135.136 was found in Warrington, Warrington, United Kingdom. It is allocated to TalkTalk. Additional IP location information, as well as network tools are available below.

IP address:62.24.135.136
hostname:smtp-out-8.tiscali.co.uk
ISP:TalkTalk
City:Warrington
Region:Warrington
Country:United Kingdom (GB) flag
Postal code:WA1
latitude:53.3833
longitude:-2.6
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tech-c:         PT616-RIPE
status:         ALLOCATED PA
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:         TALKTALK-MNT
mnt-lower:      OPAL-MNT
mnt-lower:      TALKTALK-MNT
mnt-routes:     OPAL-MNT
created:        1970-01-01T00:00:00Z
last-modified:  2018-12-06T15:27:06Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

organisation:   ORG-OTIS1-RIPE
org-name:       TalkTalk Communications Limited
org-type:       LIR
address:        Soapworks, Ordsall Lane, Salford, Manchester
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tech-c:         TTHM-RIPE
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mnt-ref:        TALKTALK-MNT
mnt-by:         RIPE-NCC-HM-MNT
mnt-by:         TALKTALK-MNT
created:        2004-04-17T12:19:48Z
last-modified:  2018-12-06T15:27:17Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         Phill Magill
address:        TalkTalk Communications Limited
address:        Northbank Industrial Estate
address:        Irlam
address:        Manchester
address:        M44 5BL
address:        United Kingdom
phone:          +44 161 222-2000
fax-no:         +44 161 222-2008
nic-hdl:        PM58-RIPE
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        2001-09-28T15:14:24Z
last-modified:  2011-07-15T10:45:41Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered

person:         Paul Thexton
address:        Opal Telecommunications Plc
address:        Northbank Industrial Estate
address:        Irlam
address:        Manchester
address:        M44 5BL
address:        United Kingdom
phone:          +44 161 222-2165
fax-no:         +44 161 222-2008
nic-hdl:        PT616-RIPE
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        2002-08-23T10:37:55Z
last-modified:  2002-08-23T10:37:55Z
source:         RIPE # Filtered


route:          62.24.128.0/17
descr:          Opal-Net Autonomous System
origin:         AS13285
mnt-by:         OPAL-MNT
created:        1970-01-01T00:00:00Z
last-modified:  2001-09-22T09:33:21Z
source:         RIPE




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Philosopher

Tried again today to both my Tiscali and Talktalk.net email, the Tiscali one came back with the rejected message again the Tallktalk got deliver without a problem.

If case you have forgotten the Do’s and Don’ts. There are members that have. Remember:-Be yourself and tell it like it is,. Be courteous to other customers. Give others the benefit of the doubt. Update your community profile. The Forum Guidelines apply to ALL members there are/should be, NO exceptions.
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Community Team - TT Staff

Hi I8this, please add the sending mail to your private notes and I'll get a fault ticket raised for you. 


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Philosopher

Hi Ady

Thanks for your reply.

I think I have sorted it out, I read another members post that seemed to point to the problem being caused by the old Spam Filters that were imported over to the new email system. So I have deleted all of them, then tried that test message again and this time it came through with no problem. So I will see how it gets on from now and if it causes any more problems I will get back to you.

 

Regards

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Community Team - TT Staff

That's great, thanks for posting back to let us know. 


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