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can't send from lineone account

gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 1 of 18

hi all

just discovered I'm not able to send from my lineone account.

This is probably from around midday today (5th Aug 2020).

I know this because i received a reply to an email (sent from my outlook client 11.15 this morning).

I've just tested too from webmail and interestingly i can't send from that either. Receiving is fine. "xxx" replaces any personal info.

webmail error:

Message could not be sent to the following recipients: [xxx] (554 - 554 5.2.0 3KnmkL98HyfmM Sender Denied (TT608)
)

outlook 2010 error:

Task 'xxx - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC92) : 'Your e-mail server rejected your login. Verify your user name and password for this account in Account Settings.'

Now, clearly it's not a credential error on my part because a) i sent successfully this morning b) i'm receiving ok (no errors and i got the last message received to my webmail, to my outlook client, about an hour ago).

There's nothing in the service status for talk talk either.

I've noticed a couple of other recent (as of yesterday or today) issues with lineone emails, including someone with the same TT608 error.

Please could i have an update as to what's wrong?



Regards,


Gary

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 2 of 18

hurray!

Appears to have either been resolved or has resolved itself.

Did a reboot just in the off-chance + I'd applied a microsoft patch to office earlier today (no request to reboot though).

Working now anyway.

I don't think it was the reboot, given i was getting send errors from both my webmail and from my outlook client.

Also, the MS patch could conceivably accounted for an Outlook issue but not a webmail send issue from a 3rd party browser (i'd have thought anyway).

Have tested sending from outlook and webmail. No errors in either now.

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Message 3 of 18

Hi 

 

Glad this is working now.

 

Regards,

 

Karl. 

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Message 4 of 18

@Karl-TalkTalk wrote:

Hi 

 

Glad this is working now.

 

Regards,

 

Karl. 


thanks @Karl-TalkTalk 

sadly getting the same error again today - was ok on Thursday.

Only discovered just now that a message i tried to send this morning (around 08.30) may not have been sent (oulook is reporting trying to send 3 emails), though i didn't see the outlook sending error this morning (only now)

Same outlook client error as previously:

"Task 'xxx - Sending' reported error (0x800CCC92) : 'Your e-mail server rejected your login. Verify your user name and password for this account in Account Settings.'"

Important note - webmail sending is fine.

Email receipt (my end) is fine.



Regards,

Gary

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Message 5 of 18

@Karl-TalkTalk wrote:

Hi 

 

Glad this is working now.

 

Regards,

 

Karl. 


Well the issue cleared itself probably around 6-7pm and now it's returned.

Same as this afternoon - send issues from outlook but can send via webmail.

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 6 of 18

and it's working again.

 

didn't bother trying for a few hours, so don't know if service has only just resumed or what.

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 7 of 18

And it's not working again.

Quite ridiculous AND it's affecting work emails too.

It's clearly not my settings as sending sometimes is fine.

I've confirmed my settings match those recommended by talktalk.

Grrrrrr

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 8 of 18

and i can send again

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 9 of 18

and i CAN'T send again from my outlook client (and of course i need to send).

webmail is fine.

 

Things have been ok since the weekend. I was able to send earlier today. I've only sent 3 emails too today (and to single recipients).

This is quite ridiculous. The devices i check my email with haven't changed. The way i send and receive hasn't changed. My polling hasn't changed. The volumes of emails I'm sending and receiving haven't changed.

@Karl-TalkTalk I would appreciate this being escalated, as this level of unreliability didn't exist prior to the 5th August and it's clearly still an issue.


regards,

Gary

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 10 of 18

my send message finally was actioned around 8.46pm tonight

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Message 11 of 18

Hi Gary, if you're webmail is working fine and there's not a mass outage for those using clients I'm afraid raising a fault ticket will achieve nothing. What we can suggest is using a different mail client like Thunderbird and or removing the account from Outlook then readding it to clear out the settings and ensure it's not corrupt.

 

Ady


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Message 12 of 18

@Ady-TalkTalk wrote:

Hi Gary, if you're webmail is working fine and there's not a mass outage for those using clients I'm afraid raising a fault ticket will achieve nothing. What we can suggest is using a different mail client like Thunderbird and or removing the account from Outlook then readding it to clear out the settings and ensure it's not corrupt.

 

Ady


hi @Ady-TalkTalk 

Re: thunderbird. Yes i can test with a different client. A reasonable comment. However, that would mess up my sent message store (which is local). Hmmmmm. I might just have to send lots of test messages (though this doesn't replicate real world use).

Re: outlook. I'm running a .pst file and regularly use the MS office scanpst utility to keep it in good shape. I've no reason for believing my outlook client is at fault. It feels more like that my rate limit is somehow messed up on my mailbox (though i suppose that would be reflected in a TT608 error from webmail).

It's an issue that seems to come and go and appears to resolve on its own over time - wouldn't this point to a rate cap?

Also, webmail and sending via SMTP are two different beasts aren't they? Yes a global block would appear on both but wouldn't necessarily show an SMTP from an external client issue?

Btw, i am currently sending a low volume of messages. Probably averaging 5 sent messages a day. Certainly sometimes fewer. Rarely more. I'm occasionally doing a reply all but this would only be to maybe 10 recipients max (EDIT 18 Aug 2020: i've discovered one email with 17 recipients on it. Bounced today but didn't last week).

I'm 100% NOT sending to 25 recipients (like a mailing list), though i have done historically (I manage sports teams). My current usage levels / low send volumes simply cannot account for these interruptions to service.

Also, as said, things were fine until the 5th August. There seem to have been a spate of send issues too reported on the forum. Maybe this is a normal level of issues but it did 'feel' like an increased incidence. That would point to something remote rather than local.

re: removing my lineone account. I believe that would result in my pop3 retrieved message count being reset? i.e. it will download EVERY message in my mailbox (years worth). Not a great option.

Finally, i do understand you're trying to help me. Could you either query the send rate limit on my account for SMPT or at least confirm at what level any caps would kick in? For example, are things capped at say 50 emails or recipients an hour or something?



regards,

Gary

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gazzawazza
Whizz Kid
Message 13 of 18

Just tried to send an email reply to 17 recipients (1 + 16 CC'd)

Got a TT501 too many recipients error on 5 recipients

Note that i got no such errors replying to the same email and the same personnel last week

 

What HAVE talk talk done to their mail servers?

None of this was happening a few weeks ago.

I literally cannot rely on your email service currently.

I might as well flip a coin as to whether I'll be able to send an email currently.

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Message 14 of 18

Hi Gary, I've managed to get an Admin to take a look at your mailbox issues. He's seeing why you're blocked but not the excessive emails being sent that the errors suggest. He's investigating further but has a lot on his plate today with calls etc. He'll be back as soon as he can with an update.

 

Ady


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Message 15 of 18

@Ady-TalkTalk wrote:

Hi Gary, I've managed to get an Admin to take a look at your mailbox issues. He's seeing why you're blocked but not the excessive emails being sent that the errors suggest. He's investigating further but has a lot on his plate today with calls etc. He'll be back as soon as he can with an update.

 

Ady


@Ady-TalkTalk 

 

firstly thank you very much indeed for escalating this

Secondly, if I've understood you correctly, he can see the excess send errors but not the actual evidence to support this error?

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Message 16 of 18

Yes that's right. 

 

Ady


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Message 17 of 18

@Ady-TalkTalk wrote:

Yes that's right. 

 

Ady


Just a courtesy email to say i've not had an issues sent we last had contact.

Hope this doesn't jinx anything!

I still note that your engineer buddy had noted the send errors on my mailbox but couldn't account for them.

I suspect something has been adjusted at TalkTalk's end, as I've not changed any behaviour. Of course this is a sweeping statement (and something could have changed locally) but it would be nice if TalkTalk acknowledged any changes in configuration which either account for the send issues or their resolution.

I randomly logged into webmail and found the interface has changed (had an annoying preview of the current focused email, which i 100% didn't have configured). No idea if the 2 events (possible mail update) and the disappearing of send issues are connected.

Anyway, critically, I don't have any send issues currently, which is wonderful.

Thanks for your intervention anyway - maybe your engineer colleague was able to fix things for me.



all the best,


Gary

Message 18 of 18

Hi Gary, I didn't get confirmation of that but I'd say he undoubtedly put a fix in for you. 

 

Long may it continue to work without fault. 

 

Ady


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