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Fibre 65 lagging, discconections, slowing down, throttling?

hibii
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At my wits end here. Have the unsupported Huawei-DG8041W & experiencing a living nightmare.

 

I have slow downs, throttling,dropped speed & connection, buffering, serious & obvious lag and lot more. This affects both the 2 Ethernet hardwired connections , WiFi 2.4g and 5g. Used to have 10 devices all connect fine with no problems,  now I only have 5.  2 hard wired, 1 is normally on only at present, 3 Wi-Fi devices, 2 on 2.4, 1 my phone on 5.  If 1 is on, the rest cannot maintain connection, lagging, buffering and the speed drops , tested using Ethernet - to 1.1 download, 0.78 upload. Every time anything wants to download, be in android update, PC etc .  The net is seriously behaving like it has been throttled down to a crawl, nothing else can use the net, even for opening a browser. Phone has a better speed and connection on Vodafone and in a terrible area for its network signal.

 

Took over 4 days to try download the Windows installer. Which gave up and got a friend to do it on a slower connection than mine and done in 2 hours.

 

Had an engineer repair a pipe that connected everyone in the flooded pit which cleared up the excessive noise on my telephone line. I am on a dead-pole the last single copper line, rest are shared. Virgin have put their devices on it and the service degraded since then, I am not a Virgin customer. New cabinet installed, further than was as the old one had numerous problems. New main line at top of the road,  at one point I had over 123 faults listed that ran down the entire street to my pole. That was when the main line was replaced only and not the faulty connections inside the flooded pit by the pole. Only a few connectors inside it actually work  the rest are faulty or dead there are no spare connectors to the pole. My copper wire although degraded is the the best one of the lot up on it. Most of the time the connection underground by the pole are underwater.

 

What I have done the following repeatably, including being actually shouted at by the Tech.Who told me to check my white box outside. I don't have one as I am still part copper.

 

1 -Repeatedly - Router off 30 mins, off over night 12hrs, off for 24hrs, off for 48 hrs, off for a week, off for 2 weeks.

 

2 - Reset, rebooted router so much so the reset button is now broken. Router is now malfunctioning as WiFi 5g has completely given up the ghost. WiFi both set to non busy channels when it was working, 2.4g sporadically works and a very short range ie on top of it.

 

3 - Tested 5 different routers, including a brand new one, & a known talk talk working hub, very old talk talk one of mine,  one via a friend, to rule out my Hub at fault, all reported the exact same problems both Ethernet wired & WiFi, to rule out the Ethernet. Also tried in different locations though Hub has always sat where it is. Same issues.

 

4 -Tried 18 different Ethernet cables, from cat 5, 6, 7 &  cat 8, some old,  some brand new cat 8's known working as borrowed to test. All same length 2 meters.  4 different telephone cables to rule that out.

 

5 - Reinstalled windows on one Computer(new) to rule that out, no difference, re downloading everything is a complete nightmare now.

 

6 -Brought new Ethernet adapter to rule out they weren't the cause. New one reported same issues.

Took 1 PC, laptop, new mobile phone to friends  to test, and all worked.

Friend brought their laptop, router, mobile to mine and got same issues I was having. Tried very expensive router & new cables with exact same issue. My devices all worked perfectly at friends.

 

7- Had PC checked to double make sure it wasn't it, all passed fully at the store. Same issue when back home.

 

8 - Engineer reset  my profile in the underground ocean box as I call it, it has done nothing. Other than the noise which sporadically reappears. My  junction where it comes in form outside is up to date. The master box is working fine.

 

9 - Turned every device off, connected 1, tested, every single one solo wise same issues. Wired or WiFi.

 

10 - Now I get speed to device is Poor. That can be as low as 1.1 down, 0.78 up, ranges up to the max of 49 down, 8 up. Average is 25 down, 5 up.  Ping that ranges from 17ms to 1000ms, regularly it is  over 62ms.  That is not even if I am trying to download. That is the direct  speed test from the Talk Talk page. Reference I was a steady stable 75 down 17 up with a ping of 9ms for years, made no difference when i downloaded or not. Same old PC reports the exact same issues as the new one replacing it. The older one reports worse than the newer. All tested 1 at a time. The same now warning is ever present. New refreshed line or otherwise.

 

11 - Windows has reported Internet connection issues, I have reset the network card, reinstalled the actual up to date drivers, including bypassing the inbuilt intel(known issues) for the new Ethernet network card. Every driver is up to date, windows is up to date, taken me to take the PC and hijack a friends to get all of that. I have ipconfig'd my little heart out, release, renew, flushdns the full works so much so I know the commands by heart. Temp fix as it all comes back again. Rebooting  devices is a temporary fix. I have set the dns to talk talk to google and same issues.

 

12 - I have had via the test my line,  router is not configured error in the line test, internet is not connected and host of others issues. DNS cache issues, flashing lights saying internet is not connected.  Even some of the longer test report problems, and some then claim there is no issue and I have the no internet connection flashing at me.

 

Please do not ask me to turn off router, it has been done on repeat. I even turned it off for 24 hours, when the engineer came out having found a line fault the last rude shouts at me tech guy said wasn't one. The profile reset has changed nothing. Nothing was done in the cabinet as it looked OK.

 

This is not on or what I pay for. That many different routers, cables all reporting the exact same issues and now speed to device is poor, poor it is non existent. Clearly a problem here. I refuse point blank to deal with tech as they follow a set script and not actually read what you are telling them. Worse despite reporting the shouting from Tech help line to complaints got nothing, not even an apology.

 

 

All of this is utterly distressing. Cant watch youtube on a smart TV, if I have alexa on. Come on something has gone pear shaped big time. Forget me trying to do do my Game competitions due to the fact I lag out and crash its got that bad, that effectively killed my income. I used to be able to stream & play. Forget that now, if i can call up a browser to run a speed test and see the lovely warning come up I call that a win.

 

What is the problem, where,  & why the very apparent instant throttling as soon as anything even looks to try and upload or download?

 

 

 

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hibii
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Update, by any means I am not laying sole blame on Talk Talk. Open Reach have a lot to answer for and I do sympathize with Talk Talk.

It is known, enough Engineers i have had have said the same. The entire street has issues in the network pipes. The connectors in the ground are failing and all that appears to happen is when a consumer complains, they swap out the connectors. Meaning if you are in the good working port, you are moved the malfunctioning one, and vice versa. The issues are never fixed properly its a temp bodge for want of a better word.

 

Now thanks to the involvement of a CEO at the time of Talk Talk, they got Open Reach to fix the main street pipe. That cut down some errors but left the connecting street,  mine still with the 123 listed faults running down it pole to pole. The entire street pipes need fixing and especially the 'ocean' box as these connectors are submerged in water, and that is not ideal. Possibly why there are no spare and the ones that are working are faulty and us customers get moved around in the hope it fixes something, which it doesn't.

 

Bright spot the cabinet is new and the known old one with is broken card is happily no more, one less major fault.

 

However that still leaves me with an ongoing issue, while my line is degraded it is or was stable until Virgin stuck their equipment in. Now I do know if that triggered this issue or just a coincidence. Timing says there is merit.

 

What I have narrowed down my issue to is simultaneously Downloading/Uploading. I am being throttled, soon as anything uploads/download or does so simultaneously I am hit with immediate slow down. Games will crash out, downloads as stated 4 days to try and download windows 11 install file.  I have high latency, ping goes from normal 9-16 to 1000.

 

I have never and I have had far more connected peripherals on my service and never experienced this hell and unusable payed for service. Netflix can't run without lagging, even if I disconnect every device and there is only 5 at max. The doorbell cannot upload vids if triggered.

 

It is instant, soon as the simultaneous download/upload occur BINGO everything crawls to  0.6 download 0.2 upload and ping goes crazy.

 

Yet everything works perfect at friends, even the PC tech guy laptop experienced it. He was shocked.  His words were that is not right, that is throttling and none of your settings are the cause of it. That I know as I can tether hook my poor signal Vodafone data and  suffer none of this. It has better speed, that is saying something.

 

That is one if not the fault here, high latency on simultaneously uploading/downloading throttling. As a gamer and streamer I have never had this issue even with  then 10 connected devices,  until the arrival of Virgins equipment, have they done something? Is it the ongoing faults via open reach not repairing or talk talk issue.

 

Gaming is what I do. It is essential for the simultaneous downloading/uploading (high latency) as is the security cam. Both very much affected by this. Repeating never had an issue like this before when you cant even netflix let alone try to game or have your doorbell ring. None are now able to work because of this. That is not a service paid for. The service paid for could do that easily without issue until now.

 

Adding, that is one Hardwired PC, as no way in any sense of the world can anything else even think to run and operate.  That as stated above is on the new router, supplied cable in addition to the all the other ones I have used and tested. I am forced to use my own vodafone data on my mobile as this is not functioning.

 

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Yes the router arrived, in a rather dishevelled state, and possibly not new?   It was switched on which caught me by surprise seeing it flash up when I put turned on the wall plug to it.

 

It has been on solid for 24hrs. I have noted this, when it connects to the internet, flashes orange which takes a while, up to a minute before it flashes white/blue,  white/orange (hard to tell the 2nd colour) That takes up to a minute before it goes solid white. It then turns immediately solid orange and starts the process over again. First time around it did this at least 5 times before finally remaining connected in all white.

 

Temp power cut earlier, the router did exact same again. Is that normal?

 

I cant find out if it was an update as the GUI is super slug mode and glitches, Happily to log me out seems to be the only thing working fast.

 

The GUI is horrendously sluggish and unresponsive. It takes a long time to get into the menu, its quick at logging you out. Took several attempts to change passwords  and for it to save them.  Same for renaming the 2 wifi bands, & passwords. Cannot even see where to change the usual  wifi channels?  As ones that are usually default are full, which is why I change them to the quiet channels.

 

The Game menu will not allow input of a game that is not listed as the names in it are not the current.

 

Rather disturbed it has secretly, as i can not find such a menu that is is harvesting my data and peripherals used, which was a shock and a concern to see suddenly my Dot appear in a speed test that is malfunctioning.  That is not warranted, I can  and have happily manually added, as most routers have a check box to upload such information for diagnostic information. I see no valid reason for this being hidden and unknown from a user. I am seriously not happy about that feature, what else is hidden away?

 

 

 

 

 

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As said Full Fibre was assured over 10 years ago tbh,  as the entire Village I am in was sent an official letter from BT stating it would be as all our copper lines were degrading & there would be disruption as a result.  This then never came to fruition, the deadlines came and went and finally a put on hold notice issued. We got half fibre, poor at that.  No end of the surrounding villages all had the same and all got postponed. Typical BT or now as its known Open Reach. 

 

I still have all the letters regarding that. One even posted in our library in the humour section.

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I don't think Full Fibre was available 10 years ago, other than a project in York, @hibii.

 

In 2015, Talktalk was focusing on FTTC. 

 

There's a timeline here:

 

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 The trouble is FTTC was loosely referred to as Fibre Broadband at the time.  

 

Hopefully the support team will help you get to the root of the problem this time.

Gliwmaeden2, a fellow customer.
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Hi hibii,

 

I've ordered a replacement router, it should be with you within a couple of working days


Chris

Message 7 of 11

Was supposed to be full fibre over 10 years ago. Never happened. Virgin has its equipment on every pole and cabinet so would assume full fibre could be implemented. Its all fibre to the pole. Degraded copper to the house.

 

I still query with the virgin boxes is it impeding the connections via the pole or cabinet. Something is clearly throttling and causing these multi issues.

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Still using the unsupported Huawei. All WiFi has now ceased working on it and its powers off on its own. Not surprising given its been forced to power off to temp fix issues.

 

Also adding I have done these tests at various times, including downloading or uploading and always the same result on any router, cable etc. Throttled and same issues arise regardless.

 

Ran a test and its reporting error on line, re ran on 2nd device and it said router not configured. Re ran on main PC and dns cache error, then no connection, despite being on line.

 

Clearly something is amiss, router or the actual line, profile.  Uploading and downloading are key issues here, those combined will throttle the net to unusable speeds. Dial up would beat me.

 

Profile was reset again today and its worse, now have to monitor for 48 hrs again.

 

 

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Debbie-TalkTalk
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Message 9 of 11

Hi hibii

 

I'm really sorry to hear this.

 

Just to confirm, you are still using the Huawei WIFI hub at the moment? I think we should send a Sagemcom WIFI hub first, would you like me to arrange this?

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Gliwmaeden2
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Message 10 of 11

They may well swap that router anyway, because there's no point struggling with an unsupported model, @hibii.

 

And is there full fibre available with Talktalk in your area?

 

Degraded copper is the main reason for the switch over and it's getting too expensive to maintain. It sounds a dreadfully difficult location.

 

Staff will be on here during the day. Please look out for their responses during usual business hours.

Gliwmaeden2, a fellow customer.
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