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Fibre 65 lagging, discconections, slowing down, throttling?

hibii
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Message 31 of 31

At my wits end here. Have the unsupported Huawei-DG8041W & experiencing a living nightmare.

 

I have slow downs, throttling,dropped speed & connection, buffering, serious & obvious lag and lot more. This affects both the 2 Ethernet hardwired connections , WiFi 2.4g and 5g. Used to have 10 devices all connect fine with no problems,  now I only have 5.  2 hard wired, 1 is normally on only at present, 3 Wi-Fi devices, 2 on 2.4, 1 my phone on 5.  If 1 is on, the rest cannot maintain connection, lagging, buffering and the speed drops , tested using Ethernet - to 1.1 download, 0.78 upload. Every time anything wants to download, be in android update, PC etc .  The net is seriously behaving like it has been throttled down to a crawl, nothing else can use the net, even for opening a browser. Phone has a better speed and connection on Vodafone and in a terrible area for its network signal.

 

Took over 4 days to try download the Windows installer. Which gave up and got a friend to do it on a slower connection than mine and done in 2 hours.

 

Had an engineer repair a pipe that connected everyone in the flooded pit which cleared up the excessive noise on my telephone line. I am on a dead-pole the last single copper line, rest are shared. Virgin have put their devices on it and the service degraded since then, I am not a Virgin customer. New cabinet installed, further than was as the old one had numerous problems. New main line at top of the road,  at one point I had over 123 faults listed that ran down the entire street to my pole. That was when the main line was replaced only and not the faulty connections inside the flooded pit by the pole. Only a few connectors inside it actually work  the rest are faulty or dead there are no spare connectors to the pole. My copper wire although degraded is the the best one of the lot up on it. Most of the time the connection underground by the pole are underwater.

 

What I have done the following repeatably, including being actually shouted at by the Tech.Who told me to check my white box outside. I don't have one as I am still part copper.

 

1 -Repeatedly - Router off 30 mins, off over night 12hrs, off for 24hrs, off for 48 hrs, off for a week, off for 2 weeks.

 

2 - Reset, rebooted router so much so the reset button is now broken. Router is now malfunctioning as WiFi 5g has completely given up the ghost. WiFi both set to non busy channels when it was working, 2.4g sporadically works and a very short range ie on top of it.

 

3 - Tested 5 different routers, including a brand new one, & a known talk talk working hub, very old talk talk one of mine,  one via a friend, to rule out my Hub at fault, all reported the exact same problems both Ethernet wired & WiFi, to rule out the Ethernet. Also tried in different locations though Hub has always sat where it is. Same issues.

 

4 -Tried 18 different Ethernet cables, from cat 5, 6, 7 &  cat 8, some old,  some brand new cat 8's known working as borrowed to test. All same length 2 meters.  4 different telephone cables to rule that out.

 

5 - Reinstalled windows on one Computer(new) to rule that out, no difference, re downloading everything is a complete nightmare now.

 

6 -Brought new Ethernet adapter to rule out they weren't the cause. New one reported same issues.

Took 1 PC, laptop, new mobile phone to friends  to test, and all worked.

Friend brought their laptop, router, mobile to mine and got same issues I was having. Tried very expensive router & new cables with exact same issue. My devices all worked perfectly at friends.

 

7- Had PC checked to double make sure it wasn't it, all passed fully at the store. Same issue when back home.

 

8 - Engineer reset  my profile in the underground ocean box as I call it, it has done nothing. Other than the noise which sporadically reappears. My  junction where it comes in form outside is up to date. The master box is working fine.

 

9 - Turned every device off, connected 1, tested, every single one solo wise same issues. Wired or WiFi.

 

10 - Now I get speed to device is Poor. That can be as low as 1.1 down, 0.78 up, ranges up to the max of 49 down, 8 up. Average is 25 down, 5 up.  Ping that ranges from 17ms to 1000ms, regularly it is  over 62ms.  That is not even if I am trying to download. That is the direct  speed test from the Talk Talk page. Reference I was a steady stable 75 down 17 up with a ping of 9ms for years, made no difference when i downloaded or not. Same old PC reports the exact same issues as the new one replacing it. The older one reports worse than the newer. All tested 1 at a time. The same now warning is ever present. New refreshed line or otherwise.

 

11 - Windows has reported Internet connection issues, I have reset the network card, reinstalled the actual up to date drivers, including bypassing the inbuilt intel(known issues) for the new Ethernet network card. Every driver is up to date, windows is up to date, taken me to take the PC and hijack a friends to get all of that. I have ipconfig'd my little heart out, release, renew, flushdns the full works so much so I know the commands by heart. Temp fix as it all comes back again. Rebooting  devices is a temporary fix. I have set the dns to talk talk to google and same issues.

 

12 - I have had via the test my line,  router is not configured error in the line test, internet is not connected and host of others issues. DNS cache issues, flashing lights saying internet is not connected.  Even some of the longer test report problems, and some then claim there is no issue and I have the no internet connection flashing at me.

 

Please do not ask me to turn off router, it has been done on repeat. I even turned it off for 24 hours, when the engineer came out having found a line fault the last rude shouts at me tech guy said wasn't one. The profile reset has changed nothing. Nothing was done in the cabinet as it looked OK.

 

This is not on or what I pay for. That many different routers, cables all reporting the exact same issues and now speed to device is poor, poor it is non existent. Clearly a problem here. I refuse point blank to deal with tech as they follow a set script and not actually read what you are telling them. Worse despite reporting the shouting from Tech help line to complaints got nothing, not even an apology.

 

 

All of this is utterly distressing. Cant watch youtube on a smart TV, if I have alexa on. Come on something has gone pear shaped big time. Forget me trying to do do my Game competitions due to the fact I lag out and crash its got that bad, that effectively killed my income. I used to be able to stream & play. Forget that now, if i can call up a browser to run a speed test and see the lovely warning come up I call that a win.

 

What is the problem, where,  & why the very apparent instant throttling as soon as anything even looks to try and upload or download?

 

 

 

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Message 1 of 31

Thanks for running the tests. Noise on the line can affect the broadband service so we'll need to look at this first. If you'd like me to book the engineer can you let me know and I'll confirm some details with you

Chris

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Message 2 of 31

Preformed test, on both master socket & test socket. 

 

Static remained, however it appeared louder when using the test socket. 

 

I did think it cleared after plugging back in the master socket but that was brief as hour later the static returned. 

 

Tested using 2 phones, same result & after neighbour finishes work.  Rules them out the equation of noise on line that intermittent at best, constant & increasing at worse 

 

 

 

 

 

Also re ran the download/upload test briefly. Exactly same results as already posted. Same method as previously posted. 

 

 

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Tested both socket & test por direct, no discernable difference. 

 

I will repeat this later today when my neighbour is not home as they have 2 shared copper lines off the failed D rated pole & are active  currently as they work from home, they are not in Talk Talk, they are on a different ISP.

 

 

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Message 5 of 31

Hi hibii,

 

I'm sorry this is taking so long to resolve. If you are still experiencing the static sound on the line then we'll need to look at this first. Do you still hear the static with the telephone connected to the test socket and the router disconnected?

Chris

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Instant throttling still evident on continous non fixed line faultInstant throttling still evident on continous non fixed line fault

 

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hibii
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Message 7 of 31

All other device the whole 3 others switched off fully.

 

Using 1 PC Ethernet hardwired to download a patch file caused this to happen - instantaneously throttled

2nd PC Ethernet hardwired to record speed using Ookla as per Talk Talk speed test.

 

Repeated vice versa same results of instantaneous throttled with high ping.

Repeated via WiFi both ways same recorded result, exact same result of instantaneously throttled with high ping.

Repeated using WiFi & Ethernet both ways. Exact same resulting instant throttling to that low speed with high ping.

 

As stated, this affects all devices ETHERNET & WiFi as soon as anything downloads/uploads does so simultaneous. Entirely throttled.

 

 

Issue is still very CLEARLY evident & present, Line fault & throttling.  Phone line static noise is still ongoing post 24hrs nows. 

 

 


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hibii
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Message 8 of 31

I honestly do not understand this whole fiasco & your wrongful obsession with line speed.

 

It still insulting to be told how dare I use data, how dare I connect more than 1 device.

 

As said repeatedly I am at home as I am housebound recovering from a major health illness. One I've just be warned to de-stress immediately , as I'm heading for another heart attack because of your poor handling of this issue & the sheer stress you are actively engaging in as some joke 

 

 

 

The Engineer blatantly lied to my face, Infront of witnesses. He had a fault, we all heard it. We all heard him state the fault was in the fast fibre lane & he was going to change my fibre port over resulting in 14 days of unstable fluctuation in the line.

 

Now  I am told the same Engineer has told further lies about this.

 

Sorry but no this is not acceptable. 

 

I have repeatedly told you what occurs, You have blatantly ignored it going on about speed.

 

It's downloading uploading the problem lays, it's being throttled. Any device connecting to this line is throttled instantly. 

 

Clear case of throttling and seen in action by previous Engineers who saw the 1.1 download speed & 0.8 upload occur several times.   The only Engineer that did fix something the frayed wiring in the flooded underground connection box. 

 

You have crossed the line here. You are at fault, escalation up to CEO is now required. 

 

Btw The line test failed 

 

Router incorrectly configured 

Line Fault found. 

 

My Community Nurse  & Dr coming to remind me I should be stress free and alarmed at my  heart rate triggered the security cam of my doorbell. Resulting the TV the only other device active losing immediate internet and the camera speed connection dropping to 1.1 from it's set 20. 

 

Fixed it is not. Lies by Engineer told by the plenty. 

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Message 9 of 31

We're sorry to hear this. I can confirm that as per the engineer note there was no fault found. I will run checks for you as you did mention that you are still experiencing issues. Please confirm if you are currently at home. 

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hibii
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Message 10 of 31

I am going to thoroughly test your so called unknown miracle fix. 

 

I have not due to believing the lies I had a fibre port change which would give me an unstable line for 14 days . Which clearly is not what I'm experiencing.

 

As known unstable lines are not ideal for testing anything.

 

 

Result back. Throttling is still occuring, very clearly the queue management parameters are not set. 

 

All devices report issues as per your own help page 

 

I have asked for solutions, you give me throttling & lies. 

 

Service paid for is unfit for purpose if you can't use a single device to down or upload as it becomes unviable. 

 

I am going to continue to test this. After all got nothing better to do than pay for a service I can't use without being shouted at by you fir doing so. 

 

 

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hibii
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Message 11 of 31

It is clear that, despite clearly stating the issues suffering that is being ignored. 

 

I am ashamed that Talk Talk think that not listening is something worthy. 

 

Throttling is the issue, not line speed as seems to be the sole focus. 

 

I have repeatedly pointed out the issues. The router gui  & it's ignored over this obsession with speed. 

 

Queue management parameters, throttling on simultaneously download upload, upload download are where this throttling occurs on any connected device wired & WiFi. 

 

Be it mine or otherwise.  Mine all work when NOT connected to this sevice. 

 

I should not have to be forced to use my own mobile data to do anything because the fast fibre error is still actively present & throttling my connection to unusable. 

 

Do you even realise how distressing it is to be unable to facetime family & do what is normal when the throttling occurs. 

 

As stated I had far more devices before years of it with never once experiencing this throttling. 

 

Telling me how dare I have more than 1 device, shouting at me is abominable behaviour & very wrong. 

 

I pay for a service, I do not pay for this treatment.

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 12 of 31

Good morning hibii. The issue is showing as fixed on our side however since you are still experiencing issues I will need to run further checks. Please confirm if you are messaging us from home. 
 

 

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TBH I remain skeptical anything has changed and does still appear the faults still are present.  I am not expericing the wild line speed swings that a new fibre port would produce. All in all I still hold firm nothing was done.

 

I have heavy static noise again on the telephone line.

I have run a speed test via the talk talk  services page and it again shows the continuing steady decline in the line speed.

Still shows faults to devices that is WiFi devices, it does not show my Ethernet devices at all?

3 updates, different Ethernet wired PC's all had the throttling instantly occur even though they were the only device online at the time.

 

Log into Talk Talk is woefully slow. Cannot log into the router GUI, it logs me out before the main GUI loads.

Internet was off at least twice that I noticed. It just went offline and back in under 5 minutes.

 

Windows still reports poor connection and low quality. Espeically if something attempts to download, upload, simultanously do both, latter being the worse for the cause.

 

As said suspect the Queue management parameters to the Internet fibre port & router have been changed incorrectly causing this outage, and that throttling on the line is the main cause. The fault the Engineers machine alerted is in whatever the fast (fibre) is still there.

 

I am not a superhero heavyweight heavy data user. I have used a lot in the past with none of this when family were growing up. Now its far less, updates the odd game install and  now because Talk Talk tech demanded I wipe my Main PC, all its software has to be reinstalled and that will shoot my usage far up again if i can get it in and currently having to use my own mobile data, other peoples internet and trying my own that takes hours not minutes to download, and then will be back to the  once done ticks by average data user.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 14 of 31

Hi hibii,

 

How has it been so far today? If you are still experiencing problems with can arrange another engineer visit


Chris

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hibii
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Message 15 of 31

Updating on continuing issue.

 

Engineer came. I should charge for sitting on my floor.

 

His machine reported faults, sounded like he said in the fast fibre? He tested both the mastersocket and the one that connects the external line internally. He kept testing until he got a line clear after pushing all the buttons on his device. Then told me no faults present. Clearly forgetting my hearing & memory works fine, he clearly forgot he told me there was a fault in what sounded like fast fibre.

 

He stated he would check the copper wire connector on the pole, just encase it worked loose. It has in the past. Also said he  would check the underground ocean connections.   Not done.

 

 

 

He also said he would do a fibre port change in the cabinet.  Confirming that was the issue.  Warning me my internet connection would be offline for 30 minutes while the port was changed  and then the line would be fluctuating like a brand new connection would for 14 days.  It was off for 1 minute & I do not have fluctuating speeds. I do have the exact same throttling issue.

 

My new router with all its new components being used has been on solidly since. It has lost connection today several times, my random phone line noise is still appearing. Far as aware router has not rebooted, not by me and dearly I would love to boot it in the bin as it is clearly not working correctly as it logs me out before I can even get hit a page to see anything or do anything via its GUI.

 

 

 

Solutions please to resolve this.

 

Says something with Microsoft have been more helpful in ruling out device issues. As mine all work elsewhere, all others brought here all suffer the same, Ethernet and WiFi. There is a fault running amok.

 

I am pretty certain it was a case of not done.

 

I dont believe anything was done. My faith in Open Reach has hit zero after this. It became clear that fixing the D rated Deadpole I am on is never going to happen. My pole,  copper wire it all has failed.

 

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hibii
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Message 16 of 31

If read my OP you would see I have done so repeatedly and below once again is listed what that says. I was clear what I have tried.

 

Done on 7 different routers. Reboots resets included.

 

Low Speed- Repeatedly

High latency - ping 1000 Repeatedly

Line Fault - Repeatedly

Poor connection - Repeatedly

Poor speed to devices - Repeatedly

Router not configured- Repeatedly.

 

 

Also, as its marked as open I cannot test until it is resolved. It is not and the issues remain still, new router has been spared this fisaco of seeing the same report of faults appearing.

 

Windows reports - poor network - connection low. 1 device hardwired fresh win 11 install. Which works perfectly else where on all 6 routers, umpteen cables but not on my throttled isp connection. 0.1 -0.8 is what I get if anything so much looks to downloads/uploads or do both. The latter is the worst for throttling the connection.

 

My security doorbell reports poor internet. That is how bad that gets when a Community Nurse activates it by coming to my door.

 

I do not need more stress added thank you. A solution is very welcome.

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hibii
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Message 17 of 31

I know this, have been a customer for years and used this Community service in the past for previous issues of drop outs and no services.

 

I am merely updating this problem as it develops, until a solution is found and I gain a functioning service.

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Message 18 of 31

Hello there @hibii

 

You can diagnose and fix problems with your broadband connection, as well as view your Wi-Fi usage and speeds.

 

Fix it - TalkTalk Help & Support

 

 

Sabelo

 

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Message 19 of 31

There's no staff support at weekends on the forum, @hibii.

 

For further help, you can phone today, Saturday between 9am and 6pm. Chat is open both days.

Gliwmaeden2, a fellow customer.
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Message 20 of 31

My speed has I noticed today consistently getting slower the graph line shows a steady decline and it is now very unreliable and unusable.

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