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Fibre 65 lagging, discconections, slowing down, throttling?

hibii
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Message 63 of 63

At my wits end here. Have the unsupported Huawei-DG8041W & experiencing a living nightmare.

 

I have slow downs, throttling,dropped speed & connection, buffering, serious & obvious lag and lot more. This affects both the 2 Ethernet hardwired connections , WiFi 2.4g and 5g. Used to have 10 devices all connect fine with no problems,  now I only have 5.  2 hard wired, 1 is normally on only at present, 3 Wi-Fi devices, 2 on 2.4, 1 my phone on 5.  If 1 is on, the rest cannot maintain connection, lagging, buffering and the speed drops , tested using Ethernet - to 1.1 download, 0.78 upload. Every time anything wants to download, be in android update, PC etc .  The net is seriously behaving like it has been throttled down to a crawl, nothing else can use the net, even for opening a browser. Phone has a better speed and connection on Vodafone and in a terrible area for its network signal.

 

Took over 4 days to try download the Windows installer. Which gave up and got a friend to do it on a slower connection than mine and done in 2 hours.

 

Had an engineer repair a pipe that connected everyone in the flooded pit which cleared up the excessive noise on my telephone line. I am on a dead-pole the last single copper line, rest are shared. Virgin have put their devices on it and the service degraded since then, I am not a Virgin customer. New cabinet installed, further than was as the old one had numerous problems. New main line at top of the road,  at one point I had over 123 faults listed that ran down the entire street to my pole. That was when the main line was replaced only and not the faulty connections inside the flooded pit by the pole. Only a few connectors inside it actually work  the rest are faulty or dead there are no spare connectors to the pole. My copper wire although degraded is the the best one of the lot up on it. Most of the time the connection underground by the pole are underwater.

 

What I have done the following repeatably, including being actually shouted at by the Tech.Who told me to check my white box outside. I don't have one as I am still part copper.

 

1 -Repeatedly - Router off 30 mins, off over night 12hrs, off for 24hrs, off for 48 hrs, off for a week, off for 2 weeks.

 

2 - Reset, rebooted router so much so the reset button is now broken. Router is now malfunctioning as WiFi 5g has completely given up the ghost. WiFi both set to non busy channels when it was working, 2.4g sporadically works and a very short range ie on top of it.

 

3 - Tested 5 different routers, including a brand new one, & a known talk talk working hub, very old talk talk one of mine,  one via a friend, to rule out my Hub at fault, all reported the exact same problems both Ethernet wired & WiFi, to rule out the Ethernet. Also tried in different locations though Hub has always sat where it is. Same issues.

 

4 -Tried 18 different Ethernet cables, from cat 5, 6, 7 &  cat 8, some old,  some brand new cat 8's known working as borrowed to test. All same length 2 meters.  4 different telephone cables to rule that out.

 

5 - Reinstalled windows on one Computer(new) to rule that out, no difference, re downloading everything is a complete nightmare now.

 

6 -Brought new Ethernet adapter to rule out they weren't the cause. New one reported same issues.

Took 1 PC, laptop, new mobile phone to friends  to test, and all worked.

Friend brought their laptop, router, mobile to mine and got same issues I was having. Tried very expensive router & new cables with exact same issue. My devices all worked perfectly at friends.

 

7- Had PC checked to double make sure it wasn't it, all passed fully at the store. Same issue when back home.

 

8 - Engineer reset  my profile in the underground ocean box as I call it, it has done nothing. Other than the noise which sporadically reappears. My  junction where it comes in form outside is up to date. The master box is working fine.

 

9 - Turned every device off, connected 1, tested, every single one solo wise same issues. Wired or WiFi.

 

10 - Now I get speed to device is Poor. That can be as low as 1.1 down, 0.78 up, ranges up to the max of 49 down, 8 up. Average is 25 down, 5 up.  Ping that ranges from 17ms to 1000ms, regularly it is  over 62ms.  That is not even if I am trying to download. That is the direct  speed test from the Talk Talk page. Reference I was a steady stable 75 down 17 up with a ping of 9ms for years, made no difference when i downloaded or not. Same old PC reports the exact same issues as the new one replacing it. The older one reports worse than the newer. All tested 1 at a time. The same now warning is ever present. New refreshed line or otherwise.

 

11 - Windows has reported Internet connection issues, I have reset the network card, reinstalled the actual up to date drivers, including bypassing the inbuilt intel(known issues) for the new Ethernet network card. Every driver is up to date, windows is up to date, taken me to take the PC and hijack a friends to get all of that. I have ipconfig'd my little heart out, release, renew, flushdns the full works so much so I know the commands by heart. Temp fix as it all comes back again. Rebooting  devices is a temporary fix. I have set the dns to talk talk to google and same issues.

 

12 - I have had via the test my line,  router is not configured error in the line test, internet is not connected and host of others issues. DNS cache issues, flashing lights saying internet is not connected.  Even some of the longer test report problems, and some then claim there is no issue and I have the no internet connection flashing at me.

 

Please do not ask me to turn off router, it has been done on repeat. I even turned it off for 24 hours, when the engineer came out having found a line fault the last rude shouts at me tech guy said wasn't one. The profile reset has changed nothing. Nothing was done in the cabinet as it looked OK.

 

This is not on or what I pay for. That many different routers, cables all reporting the exact same issues and now speed to device is poor, poor it is non existent. Clearly a problem here. I refuse point blank to deal with tech as they follow a set script and not actually read what you are telling them. Worse despite reporting the shouting from Tech help line to complaints got nothing, not even an apology.

 

 

All of this is utterly distressing. Cant watch youtube on a smart TV, if I have alexa on. Come on something has gone pear shaped big time. Forget me trying to do do my Game competitions due to the fact I lag out and crash its got that bad, that effectively killed my income. I used to be able to stream & play. Forget that now, if i can call up a browser to run a speed test and see the lovely warning come up I call that a win.

 

What is the problem, where,  & why the very apparent instant throttling as soon as anything even looks to try and upload or download?

 

 

 

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Message 21 of 63

Sorry to see how long this has dragged on. But having read through the thread in its entirety it seems that you have identified static on the voice side even when connected to the test socket. This can and will affect your broadband performance. On that basis TalkTalk were waiting for you to confirm availability for a an engineer visit once you had recovered from Covid. I hope you are better now. 

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hibii
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Message 22 of 63

Naturally I am.  

 

Throttling still occuring. 

 

 

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Message 23 of 63

Good morning hibii. I'm really sorry to hear this. I will look into this for you and run checks. Please confirm if you are messaging us from home. 

 


 

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hibii
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Message 24 of 63

CLARIFYING.  THROTTLING is still occuring on my fibre 60. That's a part fibre to copper install.  Despite what some customer service representatives & tech state. No little box here. Just a Pole, copper wire still rated failed D Pole status, degraded copper & won't be repaired by OR. 

 

 

Also clarifying. This affects all connections ETHERNET HARD WIRED & Wi-fi on every device.

 

Router is as it's always been the same place. I don't need a lecture if router placement. 

 

Electrical rein is not affecting anything. 

 

Neighbours are not either 

 

Local sparrows either. Just incase that a thing to use.

 

Weather either, underground connection  cabinet is flooded regardless. 

 

Repeating line is being throttled when downloading/ uploading simultaneously occur. When downloading, when uploading singular occur. Instant THROTTLING as speed posted above shows on a single device. 

 

Throttling makes it impossible to work or dare watch a TV stream. The latter will buffer before disconnecting as poor quality low bandwidth is reported. 

 

Throttling that only occured after Virgin placed their equipment on the poles. Not before, but very evident after. 

 

 

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hibii
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Message 25 of 63

I'm sorry to hear you are suffering the same issue not only once. 

 

Mine is still unresolved, the throttling issues still very evident. 

 

I hope you didn't get the same script reading I've had that has no relation to the issue.  Equally hope you didn't get what seems to be a repeatitive script of WiFi, router & everything under the sun bar what you actually report, reported & repeatedly reported. Certainly hope you didn't end up wondering what on earth was the responder looking at. 

 

I apologise if you did & hope yours gets fixed. 

 

I've now lost count on how many times I've been told my complaints been escalated & waiting 3 days. Its certainly longer than 3 days for the umpteenth time. 

 

 

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UITA23!
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Message 26 of 63

Wow! I'm stressed just flicking through this issue, I share a very similar experience... Again! 

Message 27 of 63

Hi,

 

an engineer is the next logical step, we can book this for you when your covid has passed.

 

Thanks  

Karl. 

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Please log in to My Account if you need to view or pay your bill, manage boosts and track your usage. From My Account you can also check your connection and test your line for any issues in the Service Centre.

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hibii
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Message 28 of 63

It was Chris who suggested  an Engineer. 

 

Fyi, I have not asked for one at any point. 

 

I also stated I would monitor, choosing to believe the Engineer gave me a new fibre port to fix the fast fibre issue. That would be 14 days of fluctuations. Given that clearly wasn't done I am still acting in good faith by monitoring for those 14 days as a rule out option. 

 

Equally stating engineers will not repair a D pole that's failed & degraded. Every engineer has said this, including those going to neighbours on different providers. I asked.  That is a sole fact of the matter, pole has failed open reach will not repair. Catch 22

 

 

I am trying to recover, hard to when you can't talk to worried family as your own service won't work

 

 

 

 

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Message 29 of 63

Hi

 

We cannot book engineers for the Bank Holiday days, so any booking would be from tuesday onwards.

 

If you have covid at the moment, focus on rest and getting better, and we can book the engineer when you are ready.

 

Karl.

Check & Report l Our latest Blog l Set Your Preferences l Service Status l Help with your Service l Community Stars

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Please log in to My Account if you need to view or pay your bill, manage boosts and track your usage. From My Account you can also check your connection and test your line for any issues in the Service Centre.

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hibii
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Message 30 of 63

I am aware of the Easter break upcoming. I mean no offence here but Gwen your tone is unwelcome. I am not a child to be spoken to in that manner. Twice your tone has been condescending & not helpful. 

 

For the record I have been fully supportive of Talk Talks situation monetary & given Open Reaches attitude towards doing nothing than repairing the failed infrastructure. It's catch22. 

 

Me, the paying customer is the one suffering here. Caught with a service suddenly that's clearly not working, As I pointed out repeatedly where the faults are photo evidence of this throttling. 

 

 

I would appreciate your tone being lent to helpful & supportive I am not the villain here, I am the victim of it. I am distressed enough already 

 

I was replying to Chris, updating the contuining situation & adding given Open Reach policy of not repairing the failed poles. Mines failed it's degraded. 

 

However  I did forgot to mention I have, being one of those with zero immunity,  COVID. Not helpful having that to deal with on top of everything  else.  An Engineer being sent is not wise.

 

 

 

 

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Message 31 of 63

@hibii, you need to stipulate whether you want to book an engineer appointment [important to get this in quickly as we are coming up to the Bank Holiday].

Gliwmaeden2, a fellow customer.
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Message 32 of 63

Static is still present on the phone line. I've monitored it 4 times per day at random times to see if I can pinpoint a pattern, none so far. It did clear for 3 hours & then return when the line went dead & no internet. Back to static again..

 

Tests confirmed noise on line, faults on both download & upload, packet losses, throttling  with severe restrictive slow speeds. 

 

Download/upload & multi device are the main issues here, The line clearly breaks & becomes rapidly worse to non functioning when any , even a solitary device starts up or downloading. Instant throttle. 

 

 

 

I am far more concerned about this throttling of the bandwidth that still occuring with the same high latency ping spikes, lower than dial up speeds & the inability to have more than 1 device active. 

 

Pretty much clear Open Reach engineers have zero interest in fixing anything & lie blatantly. It's made obvious they won't  fix anything by their comments stating I'm on a failed pole & they don't repair them. That's not good enough for me the customer, you the provide & paying for a service that is unfit for purpose. 

 

All faults still present. 

 

 

 

I still have not been told what was fixed, when told things were allegedly done & likewise why wasn't a fix done. 

 

As a customer try to put yourself in our shoes, on one hand told faults are fixed, in the same breath then told the opposite by someone else. 

 

It does not give customers confidence or faith in Talk Talk to fix issues raised, just like mine that have not been. 

 

 

 

 

 

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Message 33 of 63

Thanks for running the tests. Noise on the line can affect the broadband service so we'll need to look at this first. If you'd like me to book the engineer can you let me know and I'll confirm some details with you

Chris

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Message 34 of 63

Preformed test, on both master socket & test socket. 

 

Static remained, however it appeared louder when using the test socket. 

 

I did think it cleared after plugging back in the master socket but that was brief as hour later the static returned. 

 

Tested using 2 phones, same result & after neighbour finishes work.  Rules them out the equation of noise on line that intermittent at best, constant & increasing at worse 

 

 

 

 

 

Also re ran the download/upload test briefly. Exactly same results as already posted. Same method as previously posted. 

 

 

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Message 36 of 63

Tested both socket & test por direct, no discernable difference. 

 

I will repeat this later today when my neighbour is not home as they have 2 shared copper lines off the failed D rated pole & are active  currently as they work from home, they are not in Talk Talk, they are on a different ISP.

 

 

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Message 37 of 63

Hi hibii,

 

I'm sorry this is taking so long to resolve. If you are still experiencing the static sound on the line then we'll need to look at this first. Do you still hear the static with the telephone connected to the test socket and the router disconnected?

Chris

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Message 38 of 63

Instant throttling still evident on continous non fixed line faultInstant throttling still evident on continous non fixed line fault

 

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hibii
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Message 39 of 63

All other device the whole 3 others switched off fully.

 

Using 1 PC Ethernet hardwired to download a patch file caused this to happen - instantaneously throttled

2nd PC Ethernet hardwired to record speed using Ookla as per Talk Talk speed test.

 

Repeated vice versa same results of instantaneous throttled with high ping.

Repeated via WiFi both ways same recorded result, exact same result of instantaneously throttled with high ping.

Repeated using WiFi & Ethernet both ways. Exact same resulting instant throttling to that low speed with high ping.

 

As stated, this affects all devices ETHERNET & WiFi as soon as anything downloads/uploads does so simultaneous. Entirely throttled.

 

 

Issue is still very CLEARLY evident & present, Line fault & throttling.  Phone line static noise is still ongoing post 24hrs nows. 

 

 


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hibii
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Message 40 of 63

I honestly do not understand this whole fiasco & your wrongful obsession with line speed.

 

It still insulting to be told how dare I use data, how dare I connect more than 1 device.

 

As said repeatedly I am at home as I am housebound recovering from a major health illness. One I've just be warned to de-stress immediately , as I'm heading for another heart attack because of your poor handling of this issue & the sheer stress you are actively engaging in as some joke 

 

 

 

The Engineer blatantly lied to my face, Infront of witnesses. He had a fault, we all heard it. We all heard him state the fault was in the fast fibre lane & he was going to change my fibre port over resulting in 14 days of unstable fluctuation in the line.

 

Now  I am told the same Engineer has told further lies about this.

 

Sorry but no this is not acceptable. 

 

I have repeatedly told you what occurs, You have blatantly ignored it going on about speed.

 

It's downloading uploading the problem lays, it's being throttled. Any device connecting to this line is throttled instantly. 

 

Clear case of throttling and seen in action by previous Engineers who saw the 1.1 download speed & 0.8 upload occur several times.   The only Engineer that did fix something the frayed wiring in the flooded underground connection box. 

 

You have crossed the line here. You are at fault, escalation up to CEO is now required. 

 

Btw The line test failed 

 

Router incorrectly configured 

Line Fault found. 

 

My Community Nurse  & Dr coming to remind me I should be stress free and alarmed at my  heart rate triggered the security cam of my doorbell. Resulting the TV the only other device active losing immediate internet and the camera speed connection dropping to 1.1 from it's set 20. 

 

Fixed it is not. Lies by Engineer told by the plenty. 

I am allergic to fools, unless its gooseberry